On 09/04/16 10:05, Anne Gentle wrote:
> Okay. I'll try to propose an idea.
> 
> In the Mitaka install spec review, [1] I asked if the drama was worth the 
> extra effort to remove. Personally I don't believe so, having refereed this 
> discussion for years now.
> 
> I think you're both reasonable people and do believe in OpenStack. You both 
> want it to succeed, yet for the particular goals of the install guide you 
> haven't come to consensus. That's fine.


Anne has, as usual, stated my opinion much more eloquently than I ever would be 
able to. Thomas and Matt, this has been an ongoing feud since well before I was 
around, and while I understand we're not there yet, every release brings us so 
much closer to an Install Guide solution that will work for everyone. Not just 
to get a Debian Install Guide published, but to get an Install Guide that 
covers every project in the big tent. This conversation, and the many other 
conversations we have had on this topic over the past few months will again 
form a large part of the agenda at the design summit, and I look forward to 
being able to hash this out in more detail then.

> 
> I have another idea for a way forward that doesn't require consensus across 
> teams. Now that we have the governance in place for debian packaging, let's 
> move the debian install guide to a new repo that can go under the packaging 
> project, and you can create and maintain build jobs for the debian install 
> guide. No one will have the additional burden of maintaining conditional 
> text. You can write what you like and publish what you want, taking 
> responsibility for quality control and ongoing maintenance.
> 
> Monty's the PTL for packaging-rpm. [2] Can you envision a 
> debian-install-guide repo within the packaging-rpm team, with both a review 
> team and bug triaging only for that repo? You'll need to work on the gate and 
> build jobs as well, but I truly believe we have the systems in place to 
> enable this. And with the direction of the individual projects taking 
> responsibility for their install guides, we have a framework we're moving 
> towards and this case seems to fit the new framework. [3]
> 
> I think it's a great use of the time you have now, and lets us all stop 
> losing time to the debate.

+1

L

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Lana Brindley
Technical Writer
Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia
http://lanabrindley.com

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