On 04/08/2016 03:16 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/08/2016 07:47 PM, Matthew Thode wrote: >> On 04/08/2016 11:47 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> Another thing is that the Debian packages are the only ones available >>> for many services, as Canonical doesn't work on them (these packages are >>> just sync from Debian, at best). So we'd be effectively removing the >>> only OS where it can be installed. >> >> Saying that it's the only OS where some packages can be installed is not >> nice to the other packagers /s >> >> -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) > > I'm not trying to attack any other package maintainer. I get on well > with all of them. Those I know: Corey & David from Canonical, Haikel, > Alan and Mathias from RedHat / RDO. > > I'm very sorry that I don't know the Gentoo people. Are you going to Austin? > > Now, what you wrote made me investigate. > > Because I discussed it with Canonical package maintainers to get these > synced from Debian to Ubuntu, I know this list of package available in > Debian, and either not available in Ubuntu, or synced from the Debian > packages: > > * congress > * gnocchi > * magnum > * mistral > * murano > * sahara > * senlin > * zaqar > > A quick search on packages.gentoo.org shows no results for them, so I > don't think it's there (let me know if I'm wrong). > > In this list above, Congress, Murano and Senlin aren't packaged in RDO. > The others are there, seemingly (I didn't search for too long). > > So yeah, some packages really are only available in Debian, at least for > this Mitaka release. > > The point here isn't to make me (or Debian) look better. It is to say > it's important to have Debian documented in the install-guide. This came > truth today, when a Magnum contributor asked me about contributing to > the install-guide. He's the one who pointed to Matthew's commit removing > my contributions to the install-guide. > > I strongly believe the install-guide should follow the all-inclusive, in > big-tentish spirit that we currently have. Rejection of contributions > isn't welcome. And by the way, RedHat / RDO people didn't enjoy much the > removal of their distro just before the Liberty release. This is a very > dangerous slope. If one don't care about Debian and it's removal from > the install-guide, probably this someone cares about the wrong spirit, > and the "we decide what goes in" atmosphere who's been in the doc team > for the last few years. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > Sorry it didn't come across as a joke, but that's what the '/s' was for. I will be at summit in Austin at a bunch of the cross project stuff along with openstack-ansible stuff though.
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