On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote:

> On 01/03/2014 09:44 AM, Anne Gentle wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Thierry Carrez <thie...@openstack.org
>> <mailto:thie...@openstack.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Tim Bell wrote:
>>      > Is there a mechanism to tag changes as being potentially more
>>     appropriate for the more ops related profiles ? I'm thinking more
>>     when someone proposes a change they suspect could have an operations
>>     impact, they could highlight this as being one for particular focus.
>>      >
>>      > How about an OpsImpact tag ?
>>
>>     I think such a tag would help. That would encourage ops to start
>> looking
>>     more regularly into proposed changes by highlighting the few reviews
>>     that are most likely to need their expertise.
>>
>>     We could have that tag post reviews to the -operators ML (in the same
>>     way SecurityImpact posts to the -security ML), which would
>> additionally
>>     reinforce the need for this list as a separate list from the openstack
>>     general list.
>>
>>
>> I think this is a good idea, though I have to say when we were using
>> DocImpact in this way, it kills conversational dialog on the mailing
>> list because all the robots start talking on your list as more people
>> use the flag. We have since moved to automatically logging a doc bug
>> rather than posting to the mailing list.
>>
>> Still, I think it's worth trying for OpsImpact because there's not a
>> secondary place to log the impactful patches. Nice idea, Tim!
>>
>
> If we are going down this path, it would be good to give reviewers a
> training set. So a dozen patches that someone things would be good
> OpsImpact and a dozen patches which clearly aren't.
>
> Otherwise I fear we're making a lot of assumptions about what people
> believe are and are not OpsImpact and I don't think it will be that helpful.
>
> I also really think that this is the less useful approach than taking
> those key ops issues into the CI toolchain. And if people only have one
> place to spend energy, spending it on the CI side is way more beneficial.
>
>
++ to both of these.  My biggest concern with the OpsImpact tag idea so far
is that I don't know what should get it.


>
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