Then I guess that moves it firmly outside the purview of this list and into
your ISP's hands.  Good luck.

On 9/22/03 1:44 PM, "Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Finally somebody with a clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I can't effetely stop this crap
> unless my ISP gives my root/admin on the mail server!!!!  Even with cable
> modem It takes a few minuets to down load all these virus!!!  The ISP's/mail
> server admin's  need to stand up and  so there job's!!!
> 
> Cory C. Albrecht wrote:
>> From:               andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:51:43AM -0700, Wayne Rasmussen wrote:
>>>   
>>>> You are correct on this one.  It is a matter of responsibility.  If the
>>>> only
>>>> answer is to drop from the list, then I think I will be forced to do so as
>>>> well.
>>>>     
>> 
>> 
>>>> The other thing that concerns me amongst the computer professional who just
>>>> shout out "get anti-spam/anti-virus software".   Is this the kind of right
>>>> thinking going on in computer science these days?
>>>>     
>> 
>> 
>>> Er, like accept the fact that the list admins may be extremely busy, they
>>> may have full time jobs and they may even be in bed in a different part of
>>> the world 
>>> and dont even know that the list is being spammed.
>>>   
>> 
>> Yes, list.admins may be busy and, yes, EVERYbody should have some form of
>> spam 
>> protection on their personal computer(s). But since when does that mean that
>> list.admins should not worry about whether the server their list is hosted on
>> has something like SpamAssassin running on it?
>> 
>> Unless the end user is always connected to the 'Net and they are running
>> their 
>> own mail server, all they can really do is signature/hash checking on emails
>> they download from their pop3/imap4 server and then delete the ones that show
>> a spam or virus signature. But this means in situations like this the user
>> will still be receiving 500+ copies a day of the virus. (I have heard from
>> some people as high as 3000 over a 48hr perioud.) 500 viral emails at ~150kB
>> per virus is ~75,000kB each day and if you are on dial-up that's over 6hrs of
>> time required get only your email, so forget about web surfing.
>> 
>> If a server hosting mailing lists runs something similar to
>> sendmail+procmail+spamassassin+(razor|dcc) then they could perhaps filter
>> some 
>> of those copies out. If the major relay mail routers were to all have a
>> similar setup along with a few FEATURE(`dnsbl',...) lines in their
>> sendmail.mc 
>> then they would catch a whole lot more so then the end user would only get 10
>> a day. Still annoying, but that's only about 6min download on a dial-up
>> connection.
>> 
>> So thus the people who merely shout in response "Install a spam/virus filter
>> on your personal computer" are missing the entire point about proactive
>> spam/virus protection. Spam/virus protection may begin at home, but it
>> doesn't 
>> stop there.
>> --
>> Cory C. Albrecht
>> A motion to adjourn is always in order.
>> -- Robert A. Heinlein
>> 
>> 
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