From: andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:51:43AM -0700, Wayne Rasmussen wrote: > > You are correct on this one. It is a matter of responsibility. If the only > > answer is to drop from the list, then I think I will be forced to do so as > > well.
> > The other thing that concerns me amongst the computer professional who just > > shout out "get anti-spam/anti-virus software". Is this the kind of right > > thinking going on in computer science these days? > Er, like accept the fact that the list admins may be extremely busy, they may have > full time jobs and they may even be in bed in a different part of the world > and dont even know that the list is being spammed. Yes, list.admins may be busy and, yes, EVERYbody should have some form of spam protection on their personal computer(s). But since when does that mean that list.admins should not worry about whether the server their list is hosted on has something like SpamAssassin running on it? Unless the end user is always connected to the 'Net and they are running their own mail server, all they can really do is signature/hash checking on emails they download from their pop3/imap4 server and then delete the ones that show a spam or virus signature. But this means in situations like this the user will still be receiving 500+ copies a day of the virus. (I have heard from some people as high as 3000 over a 48hr perioud.) 500 viral emails at ~150kB per virus is ~75,000kB each day and if you are on dial-up that's over 6hrs of time required get only your email, so forget about web surfing. If a server hosting mailing lists runs something similar to sendmail+procmail+spamassassin+(razor|dcc) then they could perhaps filter some of those copies out. If the major relay mail routers were to all have a similar setup along with a few FEATURE(`dnsbl',...) lines in their sendmail.mc then they would catch a whole lot more so then the end user would only get 10 a day. Still annoying, but that's only about 6min download on a dial-up connection. So thus the people who merely shout in response "Install a spam/virus filter on your personal computer" are missing the entire point about proactive spam/virus protection. Spam/virus protection may begin at home, but it doesn't stop there. -- Cory C. Albrecht A motion to adjourn is always in order. -- Robert A. Heinlein ______________________________________________________________________ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automated List Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
