this discussion comes up every time something like this happens. the
maintainers of the list have decided that they want to force the sysadmins
of the broken mailers to fix them rather then to make changes that could
cover up the problem (and incidently save all of us on the list hundreds
of messages when a broken configuration is encountered)

changing or eliminating the reply-to would not avoid all problems, and it
definantly would not fix the underlying problem, but it would prevent thos
of us on the list from getting hundreds of messaged to deal with in
many/most cases where broken mailers are encountered.

David Lang

 On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, David Schwartz wrote:

> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:13:58 -0800
> From: David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: mailtag.com is fixed, I think
>
>
> > Have you ever tried getting action, or even a response from Ralf?
> > He's pretty lame.  At the very least, it would be *trivial* to
> > exclude non-subscribers from submitting messages.  Another change
> > would be to set the 'reply-to' header to the originator,
>
>     Both of those 'solutions' fix the symptoms but not the problem and
> neither of those things is the right thing to do. First of all, there is no
> automated way for a list to determine who is and isn't a subscriber to it.
> Email addresses do not correspond one-to-one to warm bodies. Changing the
> reply-to header just makes it harder to respond to the list, and it doesn't
> break all loops. Consider, for example, if the sender of a message also has
> an autoresponder.
>
>     The *only* solution that actually fixes the problem is to fix the broken
> autoresponder. The usual way Internet vigilantes coax administrators to fix
> their broken autoresponders is to create messages from one autoresponder to
> another -- this usually convinces adminstrators that it is in fact their
> problem.
>
>     DS
>
>
>
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