> Have you ever tried getting action, or even a response from Ralf?
> He's pretty lame.  At the very least, it would be *trivial* to
> exclude non-subscribers from submitting messages.  Another change
> would be to set the 'reply-to' header to the originator,

    Both of those 'solutions' fix the symptoms but not the problem and
neither of those things is the right thing to do. First of all, there is no
automated way for a list to determine who is and isn't a subscriber to it.
Email addresses do not correspond one-to-one to warm bodies. Changing the
reply-to header just makes it harder to respond to the list, and it doesn't
break all loops. Consider, for example, if the sender of a message also has
an autoresponder.

    The *only* solution that actually fixes the problem is to fix the broken
autoresponder. The usual way Internet vigilantes coax administrators to fix
their broken autoresponders is to create messages from one autoresponder to
another -- this usually convinces adminstrators that it is in fact their
problem.

    DS



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