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besides WASD i'm also already used to have to press a key before
writting my chat messages and then only after i send it i can use the
mvoement keys again, that is quite common in games

On 16/3/2010 20:21, Glen Canaday wrote:
> Maybe it's *my* bias. I personally know of no gamers who'd use wasd who 
> have stayed in SL longer than a couple of months at best.
> 
> Most of the people I have known in SL shop, go to clubs, create, RP, and 
> hang out, most of which requires chatting without an extra step to 
> switch focus. Leaving the chat bar with focus kills wasd movement, but I 
> can name no one who doesn't use the arrow keys for that.
> 
> Survey?
> 
> On 03/16/2010 07:10 PM, Tigro Spottystripes wrote:
> that's new to me...
> 
> perhaps my sample is biased due to me hanging around people with similar
> interests (i do like to play computer/video games)
> 
> On 16/3/2010 19:41, Glen Canaday wrote:
>    
>>>> That's an annoyance I'd like to specifically target in snowglobe 2. The
>>>> majority of resis in SL were never gamers so never got used to wasd
>>>> movement.
>>>>
>>>> --GC
>>>>
>>>> On 03/16/2010 03:42 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>> OK, here's a design problem in the new viewer that maybe can be
>>>>> figured out here.
>>>>>
>>>>>    From the Jira, I missed this response to one of my comments, some
>>>>> time ago. Apologies, I forgot to "watch" the item:
>>>>>
>>>>>    From Q Linden:
>>>>>
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Argent: the focus problem differs this time because the chat bar is
>>>>>> always present; we have no mechanism to make it go away, so if we
>>>>>> always gave it focus it would block normal keyboard use. Personally,
>>>>>> I'm an AWSD movement person, so I actually find this works really
>>>>>> well for me. It's not quite as obviously wrong as you seem to think.
>>>>>> However, I understand the use case and we'll talk about it internally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>          
>>>>> This is exactly the same problem that we had the last two times. This
>>>>> is exactly the same discussion we had the last two times. There are
>>>>> many many people who never use any of the keyboard accelerators in SL,
>>>>> and always have the chat bar up and in focus. The chat bar focus NEVER
>>>>> goes away. For us, normal keyboard use does not involve anything the
>>>>> chat bar blocks.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, how could this be fixed in the 2.0 viewer without causing
>>>>> discombobulation?
>>>>>
>>>>> An option "chat bar is the default focus"?
>>>>>
>>>>> What would that actually break?
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