Thanks Chris,

The line you gave seemed to do the trick - after I escaped out the  
tilde. Is the usage of the tilde to reverse the sense of the filter  
documented? I would have thought the -v option would be logical.

Sieve seems to do what I want - almost. It looks like it filters using  
SMARTS - but all my undesirable groups are in SDF format. How do I  
convert to SMARTS? OpenBabel doesn't seem to do it (although it can  
filter using them, strangely).

I realise I could potentially use SMILES as input but this doesn't  
work in some cases, e.g. 'C1=CC=CC=C1' is a benzene ring in SMILES  
format but according to the following link will not match benzene if  
it's used as a SMARTS string.

http://www.daylight.com/dayhtml/doc/theory/theory.smarts.html

cheers,

Doug



Quoting Chris Morley <c.mor...@gaseq.co.uk>:

> On 08/09/2010 13:17, Douglas Houston wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> According to this page:
>>
>> http://baoilleach.webfactional.com/site_media/ob-docs/Features/Fingerprints.html#fingerprints
>>
>> I can use the -s option with the name of a file, e.g.:
>>
>> babel mymols.sdf -sSubstructure.sdf mymols_filtered.sdf
>>
>> will write out all the compounds in mymols.sdf that contain the group
>> in Substructure.sdf. However, what I'd like is the opposite, i.e. to
>> write out everything that doesn't match. I tried using -v instead of
>> -s but this didn't work.
>
> I think the following will do what you want
> babel mymols.sdf -s ~Substructure.sdf mymols_filtered.sdf
>>
>> It would also be nice if I could use a file that contained more than
>> one entry, i.e. the file Substructure.sdf could define multiple
>> fragments that I don't want  in my molecules, rather than having to
>> run Babel on each one separately.
>
> It would have to be decided whether the combination was AND or OR.
> What you want is NOT(frag1 OR frag2 OR...)
> In the related --filter option there is an implicit AND between tests,
> but I think for both the -s filter and its inverse the OR behaviour is
> more intuitive.
>>
>> Would this be doable before the final release?
>
> It may be, but I am about to go on holiday, so don't hold your breath.
>
> Thanks for this suggestion. Other suggestions for useful features are
> very welcome.
>
> You could look at the Sieve program, http://www.silicos.be/sieve.html
> which is an industrial-strength filtering program, now using OpenBabel.
>
> Chris
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