On 8 July 2010 08:08, Hans De Winter <hans.dewin...@silicos.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison
>> <ge...@geoffhutchison.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> isomorph code (identity checking), so in the meanwhile we would have
>>>> to specify a convention such as all molecules with the same title are
>>>> the same.
>>>
>>> I've been thinking about this for a while. The easiest detection is that:
>>> a) The number of atoms is the same
>>> b) The element list is the same (and in the same order)
>>
>> Another option is to keep track of canonical smiles. a & b don't
>> guarantee the molecules are the same (especially binding). However,
>> the symmetry classes encode a variety of properties (connectivity,
>> element, aromaticity, formal charge, in ring, bond orders) and can be
>> used for this purpose.
>
> I agree that keeping track of the canonical smiles would be the most robust
> way of doing it, and also easy to implement
> if one imposes the requirement that different conformers of the same
> molecule should be subsequent to each other in
> the input file.

Not to prolong this thread, but I think regular SMILES is more
appropriate here. We want to keep the atoms in the input order.

>
>>
>> We actually have an implementation using a & b in avogadro. It's in
>> the ReafFileThread in libavogadro/src/moleculefile.cpp
>>
>> (http://github.com/cryos/avogadro/blob/master/libavogadro/src/moleculefile.cpp).
>> This implementation assumes you have a file with different molecules
>> or all the same. It doesn't support N conformers of different
>> molecules in the same file but this should not be hard to write. There
>> is much extra code here though.
>>
>> My suggestion would be to add an option to OBConversion to enable
>> conformer reading. When enabled, a Read call will read the same
>> molecules until it finds a different molecule. The first molecule is
>> kept and coordinates of the following conformers are added to it.
>
> Right
>
>>
>>> I don't think I'd want it to be automatic, though. There has to be a
>>> mechanism to "turn off" (or "turn on") the feature in case you want to
>>> splice out a particular frame or conformer, much like we do with
>>> multi-molecule files.
>>
>> Yes, usually when you need it the user will know. Or a program that
>> uses it (e.g. obspectrophore) can always enable it.
>
> Yes
>
> Bye,
> Hans
>
>

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