Kita primitive? ngga lah pak Rei, kita cuma "Trader Kampung".., tapi jangan lupa Ayam Kampung lebih mahal harganya dibanding ayam negri..., he..he..
dalam perang irak, tools amerika kurang canggih apa coba?? tapi tetep aja yang mati banyak..., ngga jaminan lah... Liat aja tuh yg jebol karena subprime morgate, apa mereka ngga punya tools yg canggih spt yg EL bilang..?? Dan kalo Robot-nya EL emang canggih, ngapain juga dia ngompor- ngomporin orang disini..??? biarin aja robotnya yang "KERJA".. BTW, DOW at 9PM sdh > +150.. So.., let's beat EL's robot tommorrow !! Salam, JsxTrader --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Rei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear EL, > > You must feel very good since you are over the top with all the > knowledge, power and access you are granted with, and we (incld. me) > are just "primitive" people who can only hope for some miracles to > happen in our pathetic lives. I know that kind of feeling...Enjoy it > while you can because one day everything may go away as everything > else in life does...we have already seen many examples. > > So, as uncle Ben said in Spiderman, " With great power comes greater > responsibilty"...you need to help the unfortunate ones in OB :D > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine > <you.can.call.me.elaine@> wrote: > > > > But it wouldn't be fun at all.... at least for me... and I did > > explain<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan- > bandar/message/65763>what > > barriers are. Ok, I'll write here again: > > > > *For those who didn't catch up: > > barriers = big, seem unpenetrable offer(bid) queue, effective for > moving the > > price up/down and play a big role in psychological wars > > headshots = phantom bid/offers = sudden (dis)appearing of > bids/offers, ppl > > often lured in this kinda situation, got panicked and cut loss. > > > > Most traders can't see the difference between DONE vs WITHDRAWN. > All they > > see (and belief) is that the BID/OFFERS are GONE. They THOUGHT > they were TRX > > DONE, but the fact is most of the time they were WITHDRAWN (either > partially > > or completely) > > > > That's just an example on how to drive the market prices. > > > > It's difficult to see (for average retail traders) to see what > the "real" > > transactions are (especially in high frequency orders). Most of > > Institutional dealer use special tools to do this (like > > LatentZero/RoyalBlue/Fidessa or Bloomberg TOMS and some more > sophisticated > > and exotic tools).* > > > > I'm not going to get technical (since I'm not a dealer myself), > maybe > > someone here can help me about this?. I remember someone > mentioned about > > Mechanical Trading. If you want to know about it, I suggest try > google first > > :) > > > > Ok, may be you ask "why'd they need that?" > > > > Simple. These robots KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL, from simple trendline > to the most > > complex formula. They monitor money flow, regional markets, > futurues, cmdy > > prices, fundamentals, currencies even rumors, news and running > trades. They > > can mix any kind of information, and give the best price to be > ordered. They > > literally can READ market psychology, and most of the "core" logic > are to be > > CONTRARIAN. > > > > That's why I said that I don't trade. I set target. Cuz, that's > what I do, > > and I just let these robots do my command. Compared to "mature" > market like > > those in Wall Street, IDX market capitalization are very small. > It's very EASY > > to move it up and down. > > > > One of the real example of Mechanical Trading effect was the > Dotcom Crash in > > 2000, August 07 global crash, and the recent commodity bubble > crash. > > > > The firms who used these tools have virtually unlimited resources > (aka > > Money) to get what they want, and they're working not just in IDX, > but in > > all markets in the world. Maybe this sounds like a science fiction > for some. > > But this is real. Don't ever try to beat these machines. Well, > actually I > > don't have anything else to explain, since you (Embah) and > Oentoeng are > > already know and aware of it. (Why the hell am I telling you this, > I'm > > killing myself..lol) > > > > Oh, fyi we work in groups. > > > > Now, is there any question so far, kids? > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/24/08, jsx_consultant <jsx-consultant@> wrote: > > > > > > Pak Ontoeng udah kasih opini JANTAN terbuka.. salute to you... > > > > > > Kita tunggu apa EL berani ngasih opini JANTAN juga ??? > > > > > > Embah pengen tahu apakah DIDALAM strong character EL, juga > > > ada KEBERANIAN untuk bicara secara JANTAN (= GAMBLANG dan JELAS) > > > tanpa pake: kode kodean lah, barrier lah... > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "oentoeng_qq" > > > <oentoeng_qq@> wrote: > > > > > > > > P. Rei... > > > > > > > > Katanya Elaine khan MARCH MADNESS, saya baru inget kl bulan > MARET > > > > ini belon berakhir. > > > > Trus saya kok feeling ama ketawa EL itu agak aneh gitu... > > > > Saya perhatikan hari ini kok byk yg "rebutan jualan"... > > > > Kayaknya BIG TSUNAMI sudah dekat nih... > > > > > > > > Saya tunggu seminggu ini deh, semoga lekas datang biar JELAS > > > > sekalian. > > > > Ntar malem, moga2 di mimpi saya keluar tgl dan harinya KAPAN? > > > > Kayak nomer togel aja yah, hahaha.... > > > > Kalau belon keluar paling lambat saya tunggu sampe awal bulan > depan! > > > > > > > > Karena BIG TSUNAMI kalau keluar beneran target 2000 akan > NYAMPE! > > > > So...be careful ajalah! > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar% > 40yahoogroups.com>, > > > Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Maksudnya apa pak Oen? > > > > > Bingung nih kalo ngomongnya pake istilah2 begini yg hanya > > > > dimengerti beberapa pihak saja...ini milis kan isinya org2 > biasa > > > > jadi jadikanlah kami juga bagian dari pertunjukan anda, jangan > > > > eksklusif buat pihak2 tertentu saja :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oentoeng_qq <oentoeng_qq@> wrote: > > > > > Yang jelas Elaine akan menyelesaikan MARCH MADNESSnya > > > di > > > > MINGGU INI. > > > > > Kalau liat ketawanya yg kayak kuntilanak, mestinya penantian > ini > > > > > nggak akan lama. > > > > > > > > > > Tunggu saja AKSInya... > > > > > MENTAL sudah tidak berdaya, tapi KAKI masih kuat berdiri > khan? > > > > > Ya nggak El? > > > > > Hehehe.... > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Pesan Asli ---- > > > > > > Dari: Elaine <you.can.call.me.elaine@> > > > > > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar% > 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Terkirim: Senin, 24 Maret, 2008 13:23:39 > > > > > > Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas BULL TRAP! > > > > > > > > > > > > hihi no more free lunch.. you're on your own now. Don't be > too > > > > > dependent to Elaine, use your own analysis... come on, you're > > > good > > > > > trader, right? How could you believe me more than your own > > > > > analysis..lol. . > > > > > > > > > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with > > > > Yahoo! Search. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
