Dear EL,

You must feel very good since you are over the top with all the 
knowledge, power and access you are granted with, and we (incld. me) 
are just "primitive" people who can only hope for some miracles to 
happen in our pathetic lives. I know that kind of feeling...Enjoy it 
while you can because one day everything may go away as everything 
else in life does...we have already seen many examples.  
  
So, as uncle Ben said in Spiderman, " With great power comes greater 
responsibilty"...you need to help the unfortunate ones in OB :D



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But it wouldn't be fun at all.... at least for me... and I did
> explain<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-
bandar/message/65763>what
> barriers are. Ok, I'll write here again:
> 
> *For those who didn't catch up:
> barriers = big, seem unpenetrable offer(bid) queue, effective for 
moving the
> price up/down and play a big role in psychological wars
> headshots = phantom bid/offers = sudden (dis)appearing of 
bids/offers, ppl
> often lured in this kinda situation, got panicked and cut loss.
> 
> Most traders can't see the difference between DONE vs WITHDRAWN. 
All they
> see (and belief) is that the BID/OFFERS are GONE. They THOUGHT 
they were TRX
> DONE, but the fact is most of the time they were WITHDRAWN (either 
partially
> or completely)
> 
> That's just an example on how to drive the market prices.
> 
> It's difficult to see (for average retail traders) to see what 
the "real"
> transactions are (especially in high frequency orders). Most of
> Institutional dealer use special tools to do this (like
> LatentZero/RoyalBlue/Fidessa or Bloomberg TOMS and some more 
sophisticated
> and exotic tools).*
> 
> I'm not going to get technical (since I'm not a dealer myself), 
maybe
> someone here can help me about this?. I remember someone  
mentioned about
> Mechanical Trading. If you want to know about it, I suggest try 
google first
> :)
> 
> Ok, may be you ask "why'd they need that?"
> 
> Simple. These robots KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL, from simple trendline 
to the most
> complex formula. They monitor money flow, regional markets, 
futurues, cmdy
> prices, fundamentals, currencies even rumors, news and running 
trades. They
> can mix any kind of information, and give the best price to be 
ordered. They
> literally can READ market psychology, and most of the "core" logic 
are to be
> CONTRARIAN.
> 
> That's why I said that I don't trade. I set target. Cuz, that's 
what I do,
> and I just let these robots do my command. Compared to "mature" 
market like
> those in Wall Street, IDX market capitalization are very small. 
It's very EASY
> to move it up and down.
> 
> One of the real example of Mechanical Trading effect was the 
Dotcom Crash in
> 2000, August 07 global crash, and the recent commodity bubble 
crash.
> 
> The firms who used these tools have virtually unlimited resources 
(aka
> Money) to get what they want, and they're working not just in IDX, 
but in
> all markets in the world. Maybe this sounds like a science fiction 
for some.
> But this is real. Don't ever try to beat these machines. Well, 
actually I
> don't have anything else to explain, since you (Embah) and 
Oentoeng are
> already know and aware of it. (Why the hell am I telling you this, 
I'm
> killing myself..lol)
> 
> Oh, fyi we work in groups.
> 
> Now, is there any question so far, kids?
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/24/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Pak Ontoeng udah kasih opini JANTAN terbuka.. salute to you...
> >
> > Kita tunggu apa EL berani ngasih opini JANTAN juga ???
> >
> > Embah pengen tahu apakah DIDALAM strong character EL, juga
> > ada KEBERANIAN untuk bicara secara JANTAN (= GAMBLANG dan JELAS)
> > tanpa pake: kode kodean lah, barrier lah...
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "oentoeng_qq"
> > <oentoeng_qq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > P. Rei...
> > >
> > > Katanya Elaine khan MARCH MADNESS, saya baru inget kl bulan 
MARET
> > > ini belon berakhir.
> > > Trus saya kok feeling ama ketawa EL itu agak aneh gitu...
> > > Saya perhatikan hari ini kok byk yg "rebutan jualan"...
> > > Kayaknya BIG TSUNAMI sudah dekat nih...
> > >
> > > Saya tunggu seminggu ini deh, semoga lekas datang biar JELAS
> > > sekalian.
> > > Ntar malem, moga2 di mimpi saya keluar tgl dan harinya KAPAN?
> > > Kayak nomer togel aja yah, hahaha....
> > > Kalau belon keluar paling lambat saya tunggu sampe awal bulan 
depan!
> > >
> > > Karena BIG TSUNAMI kalau keluar beneran target 2000 akan 
NYAMPE!
> > > So...be careful ajalah!
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maksudnya apa pak Oen?
> > > > Bingung nih kalo ngomongnya pake istilah2 begini yg hanya
> > > dimengerti beberapa pihak saja...ini milis kan isinya org2 
biasa
> > > jadi jadikanlah kami juga bagian dari pertunjukan anda, jangan
> > > eksklusif buat pihak2 tertentu saja :D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > oentoeng_qq <oentoeng_qq@> wrote:
> > > > Yang jelas Elaine akan menyelesaikan MARCH MADNESSnya
> > di
> > > MINGGU INI.
> > > > Kalau liat ketawanya yg kayak kuntilanak, mestinya penantian 
ini
> > > > nggak akan lama.
> > > >
> > > > Tunggu saja AKSInya...
> > > > MENTAL sudah tidak berdaya, tapi KAKI masih kuat berdiri 
khan?
> > > > Ya nggak El?
> > > > Hehehe....
> > > >
> > > > > ----- Pesan Asli ----
> > > > > Dari: Elaine <you.can.call.me.elaine@>
> > > > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Terkirim: Senin, 24 Maret, 2008 13:23:39
> > > > > Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas BULL TRAP!
> > > > >
> > > > > hihi no more free lunch.. you're on your own now. Don't be 
too
> > > > dependent to Elaine, use your own analysis... come on, you're
> > good
> > > > trader, right? How could you believe me more than your own
> > > > analysis..lol. .
> > > > >
> > > > > Elaine
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>


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