ya pak bisa itu, historical price untuk trader dan chartist... atau private market value dr saham itu untuk para pengincar cerita2 caplokan/akuisisi/takeover kaya model2 private equity kaya blackstone, texas pacific dan kawan2nya,
ato simpel bussiness value/intrinsic valuenya/asetnya sebagaimana layaknya value investor klasik... tergantung keyakinan masing2.. tp yg penting semua kerjakan "pe-er"nya masing2.. begitu kan pak.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sbudianaY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Antara harga murah atau mahal silahkan aja liat History price nya dong. > > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of kang_ocoy_maen_saham > Sent: 14 Nopember 2007 14:34 > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Investasi saham pada saat fluktuatif > > > > > Price is what u pay, "Value" is what u get... > > yah logika temenan ama "mr market" aja.. > market ada buat convenience kita lah.. > > dy kasih murah -> kita beli > dy tawar mahal -> kita jual > > tapi ya utk itu, semua harus punya preferensi "murah" dan "mahal"nya > masing2... > > masalah sabar en pd ini bisa jauh beda antara kita sudah ngerjain > "homework" ato belon sebelun masuk ambil posisi.. kalo blon ngerjain > homework inilah biasanya masalah kurang kesabaran ato terlalu kepedean > bisa bikin loss dan misjudge.. ga ada keyakinan soalnya. > > emang pengalaman pahitnya apa pak klo boleh sharing?? > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> , "tbumi" <tbumi@> wrote: > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> , "sulistyo_winarto" > > <sulistyo_winarto@> wrote: > > > > > > Mbah, James L, SBud, Tbumi, Para sobat YTH. Ambil pengalaman pahit > > > gue. Mudah2-an tidak terjadi dipara sobat.Nah ini ada lampiran gres > > > buat OB. > > > NB : ada yang tak tertulis disekolah soal saham, yaitu : Sabar & PD. > > > he3X.... > > > > > > Strategies for a scary market > > > You'll never know when the exact bottom will be reached in a > > falling > > > market. But buying high-quality stocks at reasonable prices can pay > > > off no matter what. > > > By Michael Sivy, Money Magazine editor at large > > > November 12 2007: 2:14 PM EST > > > > > > > > > (Money Magazine) -- The Dow tumbled last week, and the bad news is > > > spreading. Concerns are mounting that a recession is already under > > > way and that a bear market is inevitable. > > > In times like these, it's more important than ever to have a > > focused > > > investing strategy and to stick with it. > > > You can destroy your long-term returns by dumping stocks after the > > > worst of a decline is already over and missing the rebound. > > > And it's equally easy to hurt your returns by going bargain hunting > > > too soon and being blindsided by a second wave of share price > > > declines. > > > In fact, it's foolish to try to outguess short-term fluctuations. > > > Very few investors can do it consistently enough to beat the market > > > over the long term. > > > Instead, you should concentrate on positioning yourself to maximize > > > your long-term profits. The good news in today's turmoil is that > > > you'll get plenty of opportunities to buy top-quality stocks at > > > bargain prices over the next few months. > > > What's going on > > > At the moment, we're experiencing the stock market version of a > > > perfect storm, where everything seems to be going wrong at the same > > > time. > > > If you're an optimist, you can make the case that current problems > > > are overstated. > > > A weak dollar boosts exports and the overall economy. It's only a > > > problem if it encourages inflation, which so far hasn't happened. > > > Oil above $90 is a concern, but it has been bid up a lot by > > > speculators, well above a fair market price. With a slowing > > economy, > > > we could see the price of a barrel of oil drop by $20 over a > > > relatively short period of time. > > > Falling home prices and subprime loan defaults are hitting some > > > markets very hard, but the problems are local and can be absorbed > > > given the overall real estate market and the total volume of > > > outstanding mortgage loans. > > > If you're a pessimist, of course, you believe that share prices > > have > > > a lot further to fall. > > > There's no way to tell which view is right. There are really only > > > two things you can be sure of in a situation like this. > > > The first is that stock prices already reflect all the bad news we > > > know about. The market will fall further only if earnings are even > > > worse than expected, if oil prices keep going up more than > > expected, > > > or if losses on bad loans are even bigger than expected. In fact, > > > sentiment is currently so negative that it wouldn't take much good > > > news to spark a rebound. > > > The second is that no one really knows how bad things are going to > > > get. Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress last week > > > that the economy is slowing but that it will likely pick up again > > by > > > spring. > > > Bernanke acknowledged, however, that it's hard for economists to > > > identify turning points. > > > What to consider buying > > > Traders may have to worry about short-term market risks. But if > > > you're investing for retirement or any other major financial goal > > > that's a decade or more away, you've got a much easier job. > > > The key ways to minimize your investing risk are well-known: Buy > > > high-quality stocks and diversify as broadly as you can, owning > > > shares of companies in a variety of industries. > > > > > SIP : TBUMI > > Baru bisa untung besar kalau harga lagi fluktuatif (naik dan > > turun). Jika anda pakai strategi yg tepat. > > Kalau harga sahamnya tidur, tentu pemain akan ikut tidur > > juga. > > Jika harganya turun terus, pemain tidak berani beli lagi. > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1129 - Release Date: 13/11/2007 > 21:22 > > > > _____ > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 6995 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> for free now! >
