Nah, karena sudah bermaaf2-an (mirip lebaran), gimana biar tambah akrab, dilanjut dengan plesiran bareng. kebetulan ada bos Freeport mau ke jakarta 1 hari lagi ya ?
-toto- On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:48 PM, harrywijaya81 <harrywijay...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > "Vaulstrad" <vaulst...@...> wrote: > > gpp sir ... > saya jg minta maaf kalo kata kata saya kasar > mohon dimaafkan jg ... :) > kita di " perahu " yg sama , mohon jgn saling ribut ... :) > > > maaf pak harry. saya tarik balik semua statement saya. > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > "harrywijaya81" <harrywijaya81@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > bank bni <bankbnijkt@> wrote: > > > > gini pak ... > > > bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ... > > > tp jgn main nuduh aza ... > > > apa dia d ada bukti ??? > > > kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ??? > > > > > > > > > > Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang > sopan atuh.... > > > > Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum.... > > > > > > > > Maaf ya....mungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok > tuh...pak Admin user nya. > > > > > > > > Tks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Cougar Boy <boysngirls@> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lebih tepat jari kali ya :D > > > > > > > > ini kan email... > > > > > > > > joke :D > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 <harrywijaya81@ > yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ„¢ <vaulstrad@ .> > wrote: > > > > > PH ............ ... > > > > kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ... > > > > w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ... > kekekkekeeeee ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn > sensitif gt donk tolol ............ . > > > > > > > > mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully > ... > > > > rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap . > > > > > > > > KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP . > > > > > > > > DASAR TOLOL ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di > beli... ;( > > > > > Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin > call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang > tertentu.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- > > > > > Bumi Investors Say: ‘No Probe? No Problem’ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the > > > > > Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the > > > > > market regulator’s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi > Resources probe, > > > > > nothing much has changed. > > > > > > > > > > However, despite the potential > > > > > damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator â€" > not to > > > > > mention the interests of small investors â€" it now appears that > it’s a > > > > > case of â€Å"out of sight, out of mind,†with analysts and > even Bumi’s > > > > > minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the > decision > > > > > of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency > > > > > (Bapepam-LK) . > > > > > > > > > > In January, the agency launched a probe into the > > > > > Bumi’s purchase of three coal firms â€" PT Darma Henwa, > PT Fajar Bumi > > > > > Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara â€" for a total of Rp 6.18 > trillion > > > > > ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations > that > > > > > the acquisitions were overpriced. > > > > > > > > > > It was also alleged that the > > > > > acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the > approval > > > > > of Bumi shareholders â€" which was never given â€" ÂÂand > that some of the > > > > > coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumi’s owners, the > Bakrie > > > > > group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding > arrangements. > > > > > > > > > > However, > > > > > after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment > of > > > > > an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was > > > > > that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, > was Rp > > > > > 370 billion too high. > > > > > > > > > > But even here Bumi was given an easy way > > > > > out â€" all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it > down to a > > > > > â€Å"reasonable†level, which it says it is now in the > process of doing. > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material > transaction > > > > > question, saying that since the transactions took place in > different > > > > > fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â€" a view > that many > > > > > would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the > > > > > transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma > Henwa > > > > > was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar > Bumi > > > > > Sakti on Jan. 7. > > > > > > > > > > Capital market regulations designed to > > > > > protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to > > > > > seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 > > > > > percent of the company’s revenue or 20 percent of its market > value. In > > > > > this case, the combined value of the transactions would have > required > > > > > such approval had they not been completed in different years. > > > > > > > > > > On > > > > > the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its > > > > > investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the > > > > > question is now irrelevant. > > > > > > > > > > Indra Safitri, an independent > > > > > capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its > > > > > actions on the findings of the independent appraiser. > > > > > > > > > > â€Å"The > > > > > other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are > reasonable,†he > > > > > said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in > > > > > abandoning its affiliation probe. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, a representative > > > > > of Bumi’s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: > â€Å"We welcome the > > > > > fact that Bumi’s management is willing to renegotiate and > seek a better > > > > > price for Fajar Bumi.†> > > > > > > > > > Rully said that since the transactions > > > > > were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to > seek > > > > > shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose > > > > > this coming Friday. > > > > > > > > > > â€Å"We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into > the affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,†Rully said. > > > > > > > > > > But > > > > > despite the newfound acquiescence of the company’s > shareholders, doubts > > > > > nevertheless persist, not to mention concerns over the future of > > > > > corporate governance here as a whole, with one analyst having aptly > > > > > characterized the entire affair as â€Å"nothing more than a > game.†> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jakarta Globe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
