maaf pak harry. tidak ada yg perlu di lanjutkan.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "harrywijaya81" <harrywijay...@...>
wrote:
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bank bni <bankbnijkt@> wrote:
> > gini pak ...
> bukan mksd mau bicara kasar ...
> tp jgn main nuduh aza ...
> apa dia d ada bukti ???
> kalo dia yg dituduh org ... bgmana ???
>
>
> > Weleh...weleh...weleh..., bahasanya kok jadi bagus banget ya..., Yang sopan
> > atuh....
> > Jangan terlalu terbuka gitu ah...ini kan milih umum....
> >
> > Maaf ya....mungkin kalau bahasanya seperti ini terus , bisa di blok
> > tuh...pak Admin user nya.
> >
> > Tks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cougar Boy <boysngirls@>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:12:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ob] ph ... MULUT U TOLONG DIJAGA ...!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > lebih tepat jari kali ya :D
> >
> > ini kan email...
> >
> > joke :D
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, harrywijaya81 <harrywijaya81@ yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PHâ⢠<vaulstrad@ .> wrote:
> > > PH ............ ...
> > kalo u ngomong , mulut tolong dijaga , jgn asal keluar aza ...
> > w tau , mgkn u salah satu org yg sangkutz di bumi wkt 8000 an yah ...
> > kekekkekeeeee ... rasain u ... kalo emang lg sangkutz berat di bumi , jgn
> > sensitif gt donk tolol ............ .
> >
> > mgkn anda tdk kenal dkt dgn rully , tp saya sangat kenal dgn rully ...
> > rully bukan type org yg bisa disuap .
> >
> > KALO ANDA YG KETUA KIPS , MGKN IYA , BISA DISUAP .
> >
> > DASAR TOLOL ...
> >
> > >
> > > Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;(
> > > Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin
> > > call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang
> > > tertentu....
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---------
> > > Bumi Investors Say: ââ¬ËNo Probe? No Problemââ¬â¢
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In
> > > 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the
> > > Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the
> > > market regulatorââ¬â¢s apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources
> > > probe,
> > > nothing much has changed.
> > >
> > > However, despite the potential
> > > damage to the credibility of the bourse and the regulator ââ¬" not to
> > > mention the interests of small investors ââ¬" it now appears that
> > > itââ¬â¢s a
> > > case of ââ¬Å"out of sight, out of mind,â⬠with analysts and even
> > > Bumiââ¬â¢s
> > > minority shareholders suddenly saying they are happy with the decision
> > > of the Capital Market and Financial Institution Supervisory Agency
> > > (Bapepam-LK) .
> > >
> > > In January, the agency launched a probe into the
> > > Bumiââ¬â¢s purchase of three coal firms ââ¬" PT Darma Henwa, PT
> > > Fajar Bumi
> > > Sakti and PT Pendopo Energi Batubara ââ¬" for a total of Rp 6.18
> > > trillion
> > > ($593 million) after an investor and media outcry over allegations that
> > > the acquisitions were overpriced.
> > >
> > > It was also alleged that the
> > > acquisitions amounted to a material transaction requiring the approval
> > > of Bumi shareholders ââ¬" which was never given ââ¬" ÃÂand that
> > > some of the
> > > coal firms were actually affiliated with Bumiââ¬â¢s owners, the Bakrie
> > > group of companies, through obscure cross-shareholding arrangements.
> > >
> > > However,
> > > after a seemingly interminable probe that included the recruitment of
> > > an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come up with was
> > > that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, was Rp
> > > 370 billion too high.
> > >
> > > But even here Bumi was given an easy way
> > > out ââ¬" all it had to do was renegotiate the price and bring it down
> > > to a
> > > ââ¬Å"reasonableâ⬠level, which it says it is now in the process of
> > > doing.
> > >
> > > The
> > > market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material transaction
> > > question, saying that since the transactions took place in different
> > > fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise ââ¬" a view that
> > > many
> > > would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the
> > > transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa
> > > was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar Bumi
> > > Sakti on Jan. 7.
> > >
> > > Capital market regulations designed to
> > > protect the interests of minority shareholders require a company to
> > > seek shareholder approval for a transaction if its value exceeds 10
> > > percent of the companyââ¬â¢s revenue or 20 percent of its market
> > > value. In
> > > this case, the combined value of the transactions would have required
> > > such approval had they not been completed in different years.
> > >
> > > On
> > > the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its
> > > investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the
> > > question is now irrelevant.
> > >
> > > Indra Safitri, an independent
> > > capital market legal consultant, said that Bapepam had based its
> > > actions on the findings of the independent appraiser.
> > >
> > > ââ¬Å"The
> > > other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are reasonable,â⬠he
> > > said, when asked whether the market watchdog was justified in
> > > abandoning its affiliation probe.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, a representative
> > > of Bumiââ¬â¢s minority shareholders, Rully Oetomo, said: ââ¬Å"We
> > > welcome the
> > > fact that Bumiââ¬â¢s management is willing to renegotiate and seek a
> > > better
> > > price for Fajar Bumi.ââ¬
> > >
> > > Rully said that since the transactions
> > > were found to have been nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek
> > > shareholder approval. A meeting had been scheduled for this purpose
> > > this coming Friday.
> > >
> > > ââ¬Å"We will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the
> > > affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,â⬠Rully said.
> > >
> > > But
> > > despite the newfound acquiescence of the companyââ¬â¢s shareholders,
> > > doubts
> > > nevertheless persist, not to mention concerns over the future of
> > > corporate governance here as a whole, with one analyst having aptly
> > > characterized the entire affair as ââ¬Å"nothing more than a game.ââ¬
> > >
> > >
> > > Jakarta Globe
> > >
> >
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