keep it clean guys.......heheheh
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> waaaaaa.....i like this kind of reply.....
> i didn't really critize...i just reminded...if u do understand
english...hehehe...it's not wise to use words that would mislead
people...
> meanwhile, at that time i said if 1760-1780 resistance broken
through...it may test 1,820..(it was proven rite, thou..). anyway,
Bank Mandiri, the nation's largest bank by assets, has any potential
to break above IDR3,000 within 12 months or so for mid to long term
player...
> welll, nice to have a comment from you pak ang...
> peace
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> Effendy Ang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> okay okay.
> so what is your suggestion today Frederick Schubert.
> What to be picked, what to suggest? Any anticipation of the
market.
> Any analysis , bandarmology, anything...
>
> Are you an opinion critic analyst or a stock analyst or a stock
player.
> If you are better than Soeratman then you tell me what is your
opinion on the market or any stocks.
> Tell me. I am totally fed up with your position right now. You
post nothing but critics.
>
> Tong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya. Do you understand ??
>
> Peace !!!
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> On 8/7/06, Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: well...
> thanks for these opinions....at first, i saw there was a kind of
weird style in reading a chart...and for sure...can never 100%
believe in indonesian charts due some time, i found the data to
support it,...a bit corrupt....
> anyway, my point was if u were an analyst u could use a better
word than "hati-hati" because "hati-hati" could refrain people from
buying and inspire them to selling....
> I didn't take any position from your word, thou...for I have my
own calculation and investment power and know where the bank share
price would go to...
> I was just concerned that the word hati-hati could mislead
people...
> and as always...i believe there are only few people "understand"
the word disclaimer (no opinion) ...how come you disclaimed sumthin
while you made up an opinion...
> this is just a kind of a friendly reminder...
> peace...!!!
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> Soeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Disclaimer adalh untuk menghindarkan member discouraged
dalam melakukan posting.
> Lagi pula apakah memang benar-benar dinegara kita ini telah ada
analis yang ulasannya 100% benar? Yang 50% benarpun belumtentu ada.
Atau adakah yg berani mengclaim bahwa analisanya 100% benar? Jika
memang ada maka bravo utk ybs. He/She is really genius.
> Jadi menurut saya please jangan sampai takut posting karena takut
dicaci maki. Saya kira milis ini maksudnya adalah untuk share
pendapat. Begitu kan Mbah?.
>
> Yang mencaci maki karena ngekor ikut pendapat analis tetapi
ternyata pendapat analis tsb salah, yo salahe ndewe. Trust nobody but
yourself
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> From: Karno Edy [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:30 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI
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> "the moral is never said something that would MISLEAD
people...."
>
> Saya kira secara umum tidak ada yang salah dengan statement
tsb. Maksudnya secara umum bukan untuk case BMRI ini saja.
>
> Inti yg hendak disampaikan adalah : Jangan mengacaukan antara
uncertainty(ketidakpastian) dengan certainty(kepastian) - (CMIIW Mr
Fred)
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> Sudah sering terjadi IHSG/suatu saham menunjukkan signal
overbought tapi terus naik dan begitu pula sebaliknya sudah oversold
namun terus turun.
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> Kalau ini terjadi (bearish/oversold), walaupun beli waktu harga
sudah murah, tetap saja masih rugi. Chart aja bisa salah, apalagi
manusia.
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> Makanya dalam aturan pasar modal seorang manajer investasi
tidak diperbolehkan memberikan kepastian (menjamin keuntungan) kepada
para investornya :
Disclaimer............................................................
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> Kalo di milis gratisan kaya di milis OB, biasanya yg posting
dengan gaya tulisan yg menawarkan kepastian akan disembah/dipuja2
kalo rekomendasinya tepat dan sebaliknya siap2 disindir/caci-maki
kalo salah.
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> Yg paling penting, ane setuju dengan statement Pak SV
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> "so in the end, let's people decide aja apa yg terbagus buat
trading plan masing2"
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> Peace for all,
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> Karno
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Santo Vibby
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> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI
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> Dear P' Fred..
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> Isn't the market is always right ? Saya rasa postingan tersebut
tidaklah bermaksud utk Mislead people, bagaimana jika ternyata BMRI
malah turun instead naik ?? Kan berarti malah nolong people ??
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>
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> Menurut saya itu hanya berupa warning aja, biar pada bersiap2
jika ternyata market melawan.. so in the end, let's people decide aja
apa yg terbagus buat trading plan masing2
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> Peace pak fred..
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Frederick Schubert
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> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI
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> this is from July 30, or SUNDAY or only five sessions ago....
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> are you still convinced with your chart reading style..?
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> the moral is never said something that would MISLEAD people....
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> cheers....
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> Soeratman Doerachman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Rally sudah 4 hari berturut-turut.
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> Jangan emosi malah bijaksana untuk para trader hari ini take
profit dulu
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> Stochastic line trigerred to Sell
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