Asal tahu saja bahwa: - gerombolan yang membawa BMRI saat ini adalah gerombolan yg sama ketika membuat BMRI dari 1900 hingga 2300-an. - P. Frederick selain gape bicara BMRI juga bisa diajak ngobrol bola. Right Mr Frederick? Hehehe... - Bedanya kita sama dengan P. Frederick adalah beliau dibarengi dengan "berondongan peluru" (investment power katanya) dibandingkan kita yang membuat memprediksi lebih banyak utk kepentingan diri sendiri.
Bagaimanapun saya sebagai salah satu lone ranger di BMRI terimakasih banyak atas "second opinion" yang telah berlangsung selama kenaikan BMRI sejak break "stubborn resistance" di 1770-1780 hingga hari ini sempat menyentuh 2125. Thanks for you all....especially for Mr. Frederick Keep on posting as critics (oh no reminder) for bookies... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > welll....thanks all for such constructive discussions on Bank Mandiri....hope you all get the point that we could still be alert in everything... > i think we should end this "kind of stuffs" and my apologies if any of you felt annoyed with my opinion... > hope the brighter will come faster than we could expect... > best > > rivan man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > God Bless U > Rvn > > > ratman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Guys > > Everybody has his/her own opinion. I do not feel offended. It's only changing idea. > Who dare enough to guarantee their prediction? Even Mr FS only stated the words of "has any potential to break IDR3000 within 12 month" which mean there is disclaimer inside. If I were mid or long term player I am inline with him.. But for short term trader within that period of time there are potentials to ride the moves which gives opportunity to gain more than buy and hold. Of course the tactic and the strategy are difference. > From the deep of my heart Peace to everybody > > > --------------------------------- > > From: rivan man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:53 PM > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI > > > what the basic for ur opinion BMRI can Rp.3000?how if BMRI can not move until 3000 rupiahs?can u responsibility for this? > > > > God Bless U > > Rvn > > Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > waaaaaa.....i like this kind of reply..... > > i didn't really critize...i just reminded...if u do understand english...hehehe...it's not wise to use words that would mislead people... > > meanwhile, at that time i said if 1760-1780 resistance broken through...it may test 1,820..(it was proven rite, thou..). anyway, Bank Mandiri, the nation's largest bank by assets, has any potential to break above IDR3,000 within 12 months or so for mid to long term player... > > welll, nice to have a comment from you pak ang... > > peace > > Effendy Ang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > okay okay. > > so what is your suggestion today Frederick Schubert. > > What to be picked, what to suggest? Any anticipation of the market. > > Any analysis , bandarmology, anything... > > > > Are you an opinion critic analyst or a stock analyst or a stock player. > > If you are better than Soeratman then you tell me what is your opinion on the market or any stocks. > > Tell me. I am totally fed up with your position right now. You post nothing but critics. > > > > Tong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya. Do you understand ?? > > > Peace !!! > > > > > On 8/7/06, Frederick Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well... > > thanks for these opinions....at first, i saw there was a kind of weird style in reading a chart...and for sure...can never 100% believe in indonesian charts due some time, i found the data to support it,...a bit corrupt.... > > anyway, my point was if u were an analyst u could use a better word than "hati-hati" because "hati-hati" could refrain people from buying and inspire them to selling.... > > I didn't take any position from your word, thou...for I have my own calculation and investment power and know where the bank share price would go to... > > I was just concerned that the word hati-hati could mislead people... > > and as always...i believe there are only few people "understand" the word disclaimer (no opinion) ...how come you disclaimed sumthin while you made up an opinion... > > this is just a kind of a friendly reminder... > > peace...!!! > > > > > > Soeratman Doerachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Disclaimer adalh untuk menghindarkan member discouraged dalam melakukan posting. > > Lagi pula apakah memang benar-benar dinegara kita ini telah ada analis yang ulasannya 100% benar? Yang 50% benarpun belumtentu ada. Atau adakah yg berani mengclaim bahwa analisanya 100% benar? Jika memang ada maka bravo utk ybs. He/She is really genius. > > Jadi menurut saya please jangan sampai takut posting karena takut dicaci maki. Saya kira milis ini maksudnya adalah untuk share pendapat. Begitu kan Mbah?. > > Yang mencaci maki karena ngekor ikut pendapat analis tetapi ternyata pendapat analis tsb salah, yo salahe ndewe. Trust nobody but yourself > > > --------------------------------- > > From: Karno Edy [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:30 PM > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI > > > "the moral is never said something that would MISLEAD people...." > > > Saya kira secara umum tidak ada yang salah dengan statement tsb. Maksudnya secara umum bukan untuk case BMRI ini saja. > > > Inti yg hendak disampaikan adalah : Jangan mengacaukan antara uncertainty(ketidakpastian) dengan certainty(kepastian) - (CMIIW Mr Fred) > > > Sudah sering terjadi IHSG/suatu saham menunjukkan signal overbought tapi terus naik dan begitu pula sebaliknya sudah oversold namun terus turun. > > > Kalau ini terjadi (bearish/oversold), walaupun beli waktu harga sudah murah, tetap saja masih rugi. Chart aja bisa salah, apalagi manusia. > > > Makanya dalam aturan pasar modal seorang manajer investasi tidak diperbolehkan memberikan kepastian (menjamin keuntungan) kepada para investornya : Disclaimer........................................................... ......... > > > Kalo di milis gratisan kaya di milis OB, biasanya yg posting dengan gaya tulisan yg menawarkan kepastian akan disembah/dipuja2 kalo rekomendasinya tepat dan sebaliknya siap2 disindir/caci-maki kalo salah. > > > Yg paling penting, ane setuju dengan statement Pak SV > > > "so in the end, let's people decide aja apa yg terbagus buat trading plan masing2" > > > Peace for all, > > > Karno > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Santo Vibby > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:51 PM > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI > > > Dear P' Fred.. > > > Isn't the market is always right ? Saya rasa postingan tersebut tidaklah bermaksud utk Mislead people, bagaimana jika ternyata BMRI malah turun instead naik ?? Kan berarti malah nolong people ?? > > > Menurut saya itu hanya berupa warning aja, biar pada bersiap2 jika ternyata market melawan.. so in the end, let's people decide aja apa yg terbagus buat trading plan masing2 > > > Peace pak fred.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Frederick Schubert > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:39 PM > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Hati-hati dg BMRI > > > this is from July 30, or SUNDAY or only five sessions ago.... > > > are you still convinced with your chart reading style..? > > > the moral is never said something that would MISLEAD people.... > > > cheers.... > > Soeratman Doerachman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rally sudah 4 hari berturut-turut. > > > Jangan emosi malah bijaksana untuk para trader hari ini take profit dulu > > > Stochastic line trigerred to Sell > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. 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