So if this is scoped to be a registry for the values of a JWT claim then it is 
fine.
We should discourage people from thinking that it is part of the OAuth protocol 
vs JWT claims.

John B.

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 6:29 PM, Mike Jones <michael.jo...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> The primary purpose of the specification is to establish a registry for "amr" 
> JWT claim values.  This is important, as it increases interoperability among 
> implementations using this claim.
> 
> It's a fair question whether "requested_amr" should be kept or dropped.  I 
> agree with John and James that it's bad architecture.  I put it in the -00 
> individual draft to document existing practice.  I suspect that should the 
> draft is adopted by the working group as a starting point, one of the first 
> things the working group will want to decide is whether to drop it.  I 
> suspect that I know how this will come out and I won't be sad, 
> architecturally, to see it go.
> 
> As to whether this belongs in the OAuth working group, long ago it was 
> decided that JWT and JWT claim definitions were within scope of the OAuth 
> working group.  That ship has long ago sailed, both in terms of RFC 7519 and 
> it continues to sail, for instance, in draft-ietf-oauth-proof-of-possession, 
> which defines a new JWT claim, and is in the RFC Editor Queue.  Defining a 
> registry for values of the "amr" claim, which is registered in the 
> OAuth-established registry at http://www.iana.org/assignments/jwt, is 
> squarely within the OAuth WG's mission for the creation and stewardship of 
> JWT.
> 
>                               -- Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John Bradley
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:44 PM
> To: Justin Richer <jric...@mit.edu>
> Cc: <oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Authentication Method Reference 
> Values
> 
> I see your point that it is a fine line reporting how a person authenticated 
> to a Authorization endpoit (it might be by SAML etc) and encouraging people 
> to use OAuth for Authentication.
> 
> We already have the amr response in connect.  The only thing really missing 
> is a registry.  Unless this is a sneaky way to get requested_amr into Connect?
> 
> John B.
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Justin Richer <jric...@mit.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Just reiterating my stance that this document detailing user authentication 
>> methods has no place in the OAuth working group.
>> 
>> — Justin
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2016, at 6:48 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> this is the call for adoption of Authentication Method Reference 
>>> Values, see
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-amr-values-03
>>> 
>>> Please let us know by Feb 2nd whether you accept / object to the 
>>> adoption of this document as a starting point for work in the OAuth 
>>> working group.
>>> 
>>> Note: The feedback during the Yokohama meeting was inconclusive, 
>>> namely
>>> 9 for / zero against / 6 persons need more information.
>>> 
>>> You feedback will therefore be important to find out whether we 
>>> should do this work in the OAuth working group.
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> Hannes & Derek
>>> 
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