Hi Mike, you have to by yourself decide whether this IPR (or any other issue) is important for you. I cannot do that for you nor can the working group.
Ciao Hannes On May 9, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > On 05/09/2012 12:17 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: >> Whoever you talk to for legal advice about IPR issues related to standards >> you might implement. My only point is, this group is not qualified to >> comment on IPR matters. > > The IETF gets to decide whether it wants to create standards that > use (potentially) encumbered IP. It is the wg's responsibility to > decide whether it is a necessary evil, or whether the damage can be > routed around. How a working group does that without having a > discussion is a mystery to me. > > Mike > >> >> EH >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Michael Thomas [mailto:m...@mtcc.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:15 PM >>> To: Eran Hammer >>> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG >>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer >>> >>> On 05/09/2012 12:06 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: >>>> So no discussion of this is expected on the list - correct? That's what I >>> wanted to clarify. You asked the WG to "think" about its potential >>> implications but I don't want that "thinking" to happen out-loud on this >>> list... >>>> Raising the issue with your internal IPR team is the right step. >>> What internal IPR team? The IETF is not a corpro-only club. >>> >>> Mike >>>> EH >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net] >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:37 AM >>>>> To: Eran Hammer >>>>> Cc: Hannes Tschofenig; oauth@ietf.org WG >>>>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer >>>>> >>>>> Hi Eran, >>>>> >>>>> if you care about the specification (and want to use it in your >>>>> products) then you may want to reach out to your IPR folks and ask for >>> their judgement. >>>>> They may be able to tell you whether they find the cited IPR >>>>> applicable and whether they had experience with the IPR holder already. >>>>> >>>>> Ciao >>>>> Hannes >>>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Eran Hammer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What exactly is the expected WG discussion on this? I hope people >>>>>> here >>>>> are not expected to read the patent and make legal decisions about >>>>> the patent's validity or even applicability as these are questions >>>>> for lawyers, not engineers. >>>>>> EH >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:44 AM >>>>>>> To: oauth@ietf.org WG >>>>>>> Subject: [OAUTH-WG] IPR on OAuth bearer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> an IPR disclosure had been submitted for the OAuth bearer document >>>>>>> recently. In case you may have missed it, here is the link to it: >>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1752/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ADs will re-run the IETF last call due to this new IPR filing >>>>>>> and we would also like the working group to check the IPR and to >>>>>>> think about potential implications. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>> Hannes& Derek >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OAuth mailing list >>>>>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OAuth mailing list >>>> OAuth@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > _______________________________________________ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth
