To re-iterate and clarify Leif's second point, I would be in favor of making TLS:

-- REQUIRED for implementations to support (== MUST)
-- RECOMMENDED for deployments to use (== SHOULD)

This a pretty universal pattern in IETF protocols.

--Richard


On Apr 7, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:


Go implement whatever you want. But the spec should set the highest
practical bar it can, and requiring HTTPS is trivial.

As a practical note, if the WG reaches consensus to drop the MUST, I would ask the chairs to ask the security area and IESG to provide guidance whether they would approve such document. The IESG did not approve OAuth 1.0a for publication as an RFC until this was changed to a MUST (for PLAINTEXT) among
other comments, and that with a strong warning.

There is also an on going effort to improve cookie security. Do we really
want OAuth to become the next weakest link?

I emphatically agree.

I suspect that a lot of confusion on this thread is caused by confusing implementation requirements with deployment requirements btw.

        Cheers Leif
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