Hi Joe,

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Joe Touch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> I sincerely hope it is never appropriate to act solely on events at an
> IETF meeting, but that this is taken only as a first-step to mailing
> list coordination. Many people participate online - whether because they
> didn't attend the meeting, because they feel more comfortable responding
> via text, or because they want more time to consider their response.
>

Absolutely!  IETF consensus decisions are made on the mailing list.
It is highly beneficial to have thoughtful and considered discussions.


> My view (having not attended) is that there are some significant issues
> in developing protocols that both support efficient implementation
> (hardware or software) AND are sufficiently flexible. I am not aware of
> IETF consensus in any WG on what that entails, which means that coming
> up with a solution to satisfy a set of undocumented requirements isn't
> going to happen.
>
> As a consequence, a small set of reasonably distinct encapsulation
> designs can and should proceed as either Informational or Experimental
> as per the NVO3 charter.
>

I think that they would go as Informational.  There is no experiment here.
This would not allow extensions to be easily progressed either.


> If and when there is consensus on one of these or a new encapsulation in
> the future, they can be reviewed for promotion to standards-track by
> revising the RFC through (presumably) another WG.
>

Indeed.

Until then, any standards that might need to refer to encapsulations
> should either support negotiation or be encapsulation-agnostic. That
> would then allow a standards-track system approach to refer to these
> encapsulations non-normatively, avoiding a down-ref problem.
>

Yes, precisely.

Regards,
Alia

Joe
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