Hi,

From a purely technical point of view, you can use TIME in your $ERROR record if you want to implement your drug effect as a direct effect on top of the circadian rhythm (this type of model may or may not appropriate, I leave you judge of that).

SinfS = ( 1 + Amplitude * sin ( (2*PI/Period) * (TIME-Phase) ) )
SBP   = (SBas + SinfS) * (1-EffS)

In a direct effect model, you only need to evaluate your PD endpoint at the value of TIME that were observed/included in your dataset, because you only need the value of your drug concentration at a given time to calculate the value of the effect at this time.

If you want to implement a circadian rhythm in an indirect response model, you will have to derive your sine/consine function of time and use it in $DES. There are multiple papers from Dr. Jusko's team on the topic, eg:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10672436

Sebastien

On 7/28/2015 2:07 AM, Katrin Volz wrote:

Dear Bill, dear all

Thanks so much for your answer.

More concrete I would like to model blood pressure including a circadian rhythm. Therefore I would like to use a sine or cosine function with ‘T’ instead of ‘Time’.

SinfS = ( 1 + Amplitude * sin ( (2*PI/Period) * (T-Phase) ) ) ; sine or cosine function

SBP = (SBas + SinfS) * (1-EffS) ; SBP = systolic blood pressure, SBas = Baseline systolic blood pressure, (1-EffS = effect)

I could also model this effect using a turnover model and avoid this problem, but I would like to evaluate this kind of PD model (if there is any meaningful way to code).

I also had the idea to code this sine function as a function of time in a compartment and rename this compartment in $Error, but I am not sure if there is any way to do this.

Thanks again and best regards.

Katrin

*Von:*Denney, William S. [mailto:william.s.den...@pfizer.com]
*Gesendet:* 27 July 2015 17:34
*An:* Katrin Volz <ankekatrin.v...@uni-saarland.de>; nmusers@globomaxnm.com
*Betreff:* RE: [NMusers] Time 'T' in $Error

Hi Katrin,

$ERROR is executed once per data row. The time when $ERROR is run is the TIME value (the discrete times of the measurement). For this specific example, you can just use TIME. You will need to code your $DES block so that what you’re wanting to integrate as a function of time is in a compartment amount (e.g. A(1)). With your example, it’s hard to see how T is used in the $DES, but perhaps you could share the real example to give a bit more concrete advice on how to integrate the answer into your code.

Thanks,

Bill

*From:*owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com <mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com> [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] *On Behalf Of *Katrin Volz
*Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2015 10:46 AM
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*Subject:* [NMusers] Time 'T' in $Error

Dear NMuser,

I would like to model a PD effect using a function which includes continuous time ‘ T ’.

The PD Effect is coded in $Error.

In general like this:

*$ERROR*

MyFunction = xxx + T

PDEffect = Basline * MyFunction

But ‘T’ cannot be used in $Error.

I tried to code the function with ‘T’ in $DES and rename it to use it in $ERROR:

*$DES*

MyFunction = xxx + T

*$ERROR*

MyNewFunction = MyFunction

PDEffect = Baseline * MyNewFunction

but it didn’t worked (to rename was not permitted by NONMEM).

Does anyone of you has an idea how to solve this problem?

Thanks and best regards.

Katrin

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