Buongiorno Alberto, follow the money? :-)
Alberto Cammozzo via nexa <nexa@server-nexa.polito.it> writes: [...] > Attardi fa l'esempio di Wikipedia che è l'unica piattaforma > centralizzata di scala globale confrontabile con GAFAM e che non usa il > surveillance capitalism come modello di business. Io preferisco la parola capture a surveillance perché rende meglio il concetto (capture implica surveillance), ma è una /pignoleria/ :-) Sono imbarazzato, non capisco perché sostieni che Wikipedia, o meglio Wikimedia, non usa quel modello di "business", considerato - per dire l'ultima - che ha appena lanciato il suo "Enterprise" service con relativa azienda con sede nel... Delaware, ma ROTFL! Wikipedia’s Deep Ties to Big Tech By Michael Olenick APR 5, 2021 https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/wikipedias-deep-ties-to-big-tech --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Wikipedia’s online fundraising efforts that highlight its dependence on donations for its continued functioning,[*] its assurance that it is “super transparent with the public,” and occasional threats to run ads to assure Wikipedia’s financial stability. Most users probably also assume that Wikipedia’s content, even if sometimes mistaken or incomplete, is basically harmless, with occasional errors the price of straitened production conditions and limited staff. [...] Wikipedia Is Wealthy & Works with Big Tech Despite frequent protestations to the contrary, Wikimedia – the San Francisco-based parent non-profit of Wikipedia – has enormous financial reserves. [...] implementing a new service, Wikimedia Enterprise, a for-profit Delaware-based company to charge Big Tech for easier electronic access to Wikipedia content. Lest there be any ambiguity about who “these companies” are, they explain high-volume commercial reusers include “the ‘infoboxes’ .. shown in search engine results,” “voice-operated virtual assistants such as Siri and Alexa,” and “augmented information .. such as in-flight entertainment systems or smartphones.” For those who still don’t get it, the term infoboxes links to a Wikipedia article about Google’s knowledge panel.[1] Wikimedia argues for-profit high-volume information “reusers” (its term) have repeatedly asked for a dedicated service to efficiently funnel information away from the site and money towards it. Big Tech wants a contractual arrangement along with a service level agreement (SLA). Wikimedia argues it is unable to offer a contract or provide an SLA under its current legal scheme. When asked, Wikimedia representatives responded that the Big Tech businesses are uncomfortable supporting the non-profit through donations and that they’d prefer a more explicit fee-for-service arrangement.[2] Furthermore, the ongoing practice of embedding Wikimedia content into the websites and information outlets of others deprives Wikimedia of an ability to advertise for donations which, over the long-run, may impact its ability to fundraise. [...] Wikimedia Lacks Transparency [...] Google’s former charity, Google.org, shuttered the year ending 2018.[9] Google made two large donations to Tides Foundation, a total of $50,264,173 listed in their 2018 disclosure (consisting of three donations: $43,844,348, $844,448, and $560,055) and $76,385,901 in 2017. Neither matches a line-item amount Tides Foundation reported for the corresponding years.[10] Google also contributes money directly to both Wikimedia and the Wikimedia Endowment, announcing a $7.5 million donation at the 2019 Word Economic Forum.[11] [...] While Wikimedia donates money to Tides – to support its endowment and Knowledge Equity Fund (via Tides Advocacy) – Tides also donates money to Wikimedia. However, the Tides donations do not appear in Wikimedia annual reports [...] --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- (e /molto/ altro ancora nell'articolo) Il suo primo cliente /pare/ essere Google: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- It’s not exactly clear how Google’s new partnership will change the end-user side of things. Tim Palmer, the managing director of Google’s search partnerships, vaguely commented that Google looks forward to “deepening” its partnership with the Wikimedia Foundation through its Enterprise service. Lane Becker, Wikimedia Enterprise’s senior director of earned revenue told The Verge that the service is still in its “early days” and declined to comment on specific ways Google might use it. I would imagine that Google users probably won’t notice a change at all — maybe we’ll see Wikipedia cited more often in knowledge panels or perhaps Google will come up with a new way to integrate Wikipedia’s information into its services. Google has made donations to the Wikimedia Foundation in the past, but this marks the first time it’s signing on as an actual customer. [...] Wikimedia argues it currently subsidizes Big Tech by providing the labor required for the coordination of information dissemination. The implication is that there are resources at Wikimedia with an incremental cost to feed data to Big Tech. A question asking for a guesstimate about how many people spend how much time on this activity went unanswered, along with all other written questions. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- (https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/22/23178245/google-paying-wikimedia-foundation-information) > Mi pare suggerisca che abbiamo bisogno di alternative al modello di > business, e in questo la proposta di offrire gli stessi servizi con un > modello stile WP senza sorveglianza mi pare valida. WP come Wikipedia? Non credo proprio. WP come WordPress? :-D Scherzi a parte, ho la /vaga/ sensazione che potremmo star qui in eterno a giocare di inventarci nuovi modelli di business senza mai risolvere il problema (quale problema?) In altri termini: cambiare modello di business in un mercato NON libero come quello attialmente dominante (capitalismo) credo sia inutile. Trovare modelli di business alternativi in un libero mercato credo sia più efficace... libero per davvero però, non per finta come vogliono farci credere i narratori delle magnifiche e progressive sorti del capitalismo (in ogni sua declinazione: classico, finanziario, turbo, a energia eolica, corretto grappa...). Già, questo però non c'entra proprio nulla con la lista Nexa: perdonatemi! [...] Saluti, 380° -- 380° (Giovanni Biscuolo public alter ego) «Noi, incompetenti come siamo, non abbiamo alcun titolo per suggerire alcunché» Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about <https://stallmansupport.org>.
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