TorIX is a great example of a not for profit IX that is very successful.
https://www.torix.ca/
A very dedicated team of people provide an incredible level of service.
Thave a very transparent process. Their pricing
is listed up front on their website:
https://www.torix.ca/peering/#pricing
At 09:03 AM 21/12/2018, Mike Hammett wrote:
As far as neutral, I meant separate from the
datacenters in which they're housed. People in
NA seem to think there are only two kinds of
IXes, Equinix, DRT, Coresite types and NWAX, SIX, MICE types.
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Mike Hammett
<http://www.ics-il.com/>Intelligent Computing Solutions
<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>Midwest Internet Exchange
<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>The Brothers WISP
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From: "Tim Raphael" <raphael.timo...@gmail.com>
To: "NANOG Mailing List" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:39:42 PM
Subject: Re: Non-profit IX vs. neutral for-profit IX
The other point to consider is that a NFP can
justify more locations and offer services (such
as extended reach) that donât have the same
profit margins or ROI as for-profits.
This often leads to greater value to those with
smaller networks and fewer customers allowing
them to grow and expand without increased
aggregation or transit costs. This in-turn leads
to a richer array of providers and chips away at
the monopolies in niche markets.
The NFP IXP I work for focuses on providing
value to the broader community and the Internet
as a whole - especially somewhere like Australia which has unique constraints.
Additionally, âNeutralâ and For-Profit
doesnât always compute in my mind, there will
always be commercial alliances that lead to not-total neutrality.
When a NFP is owned by itâs members there has
to be 100% transparency in organisational
decisions around member funds and resources
which ensures accountability reliability.
- Tim
> On 21 Dec 2018, at 3:58 am, Brielle Bruns <br...@2mbit.com> wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2018 12:51 PM, Aaron wrote:
>> Probably price. Also perception of
value. If you're a for profit enterprise then
they're paying for interconnection plus your
bump. If you're non-profit the perception is
that there is a larger value because there's no
bump. Whether that's true or not, who knows
but that's the perception I've heard.
>
> Depending on the size of the non-profit, I'd
almost compare it to how the hospitals are here in Boise.
>
> The non-profits are oversized, monopolistic,
price gouging, etc. Their care can be pretty
meh, esp since they bought up all the little
independent clinics (yay, ER pricing for a basic family clinic visit).
>
> The for-profit smaller clinics and hospitals
run a pretty tight ship, better value for their
money, service is very good, and compete with
one another for who has the best service.
>
> People think they are getting 'better'
because they are going to a place that is
supposed to be run to benefit people over
profit, but alas, you'd be very very wrong.
> --
> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org
>
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