New rates for 2019 just posted yesterday! Get yer ports while they’re hot!
> On Dec 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Clayton Zekelman <clay...@mnsi.net> wrote: > > > TorIX is a great example of a not for profit IX that is very successful. > > https://www.torix.ca/ <https://www.torix.ca/> > > A very dedicated team of people provide an incredible level of service. > > Thave a very transparent process. Their pricing is listed up front on their > website: > > https://www.torix.ca/peering/#pricing <https://www.torix.ca/peering/#pricing> > > > > At 09:03 AM 21/12/2018, Mike Hammett wrote: >> As far as neutral, I meant separate from the datacenters in which they're >> housed. People in NA seem to think there are only two kinds of IXes, >> Equinix, DRT, Coresite types and NWAX, SIX, MICE types. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> >> From: "Tim Raphael" <raphael.timo...@gmail.com> >> To: "NANOG Mailing List" <nanog@nanog.org> >> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:39:42 PM >> Subject: Re: Non-profit IX vs. neutral for-profit IX >> >> The other point to consider is that a NFP can justify more locations and >> offer services (such as extended reach) that donât have the same profit >> margins or ROI as for-profits. >> This often leads to greater value to those with smaller networks and fewer >> customers allowing them to grow and expand without increased aggregation or >> transit costs. This in-turn leads to a richer array of providers and chips >> away at the monopolies in niche markets. >> >> The NFP IXP I work for focuses on providing value to the broader community >> and the Internet as a whole - especially somewhere like Australia which has >> unique constraints. >> >> Additionally, âNeutralâ and For-Profit doesnât always compute in my >> mind, there will always be commercial alliances that lead to not-total >> neutrality. >> When a NFP is owned by itâs members there has to be 100% transparency in >> organisational decisions around member funds and resources which ensures >> accountability reliability. >> >> - Tim >> >> >> > On 21 Dec 2018, at 3:58 am, Brielle Bruns <br...@2mbit.com> wrote: >> > >> > On 12/20/2018 12:51 PM, Aaron wrote: >> >> Probably price. Also perception of value. If you're a for profit >> >> enterprise then they're paying for interconnection plus your bump. If >> >> you're non-profit the perception is that there is a larger value because >> >> there's no bump. Whether that's true or not, who knows but that's the >> >> perception I've heard. >> > >> > Depending on the size of the non-profit, I'd almost compare it to how the >> > hospitals are here in Boise. >> > >> > The non-profits are oversized, monopolistic, price gouging, etc. Their >> > care can be pretty meh, esp since they bought up all the little >> > independent clinics (yay, ER pricing for a basic family clinic visit). >> > >> > The for-profit smaller clinics and hospitals run a pretty tight ship, >> > better value for their money, service is very good, and compete with one >> > another for who has the best service. >> > >> > People think they are getting 'better' because they are going to a place >> > that is supposed to be run to benefit people over profit, but alas, you'd >> > be very very wrong. >> > -- >> > Brielle Bruns >> > The Summit Open Source Development Group >> > http://www.sosdg.org <http://www.sosdg.org/> / http://www.ahbl.org >> > <http://www.ahbl.org/> >> > >> >> > -- > > Clayton Zekelman > Managed Network Systems Inc. (MNSi) > 3363 Tecumseh Rd. E > Windsor, Ontario > N8W 1H4 > > tel. 519-985-8410 > fax. 519-985-8409 >
