For that matter, if we can kill IPv4, we have plenty of headroom for a LOT of IPv6 PI space.
Owen > On Mar 1, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Matt Erculiani <merculi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not sure if this is the common thought, but if anyone has a network > which requires static IP assignments, they can probably justify a > request for a /48 from an RIR. After all, ARIN's requirement for an > end-user IPv6 block is, at minimum: "Justify why IPv6 addresses from > an ISP or other LIR are unsuitable". I would think that ISP > portability would satisfy this requirement, but If I'm wrong, I'm > absolutely open to being corrected on this. But most home users have > no need for static IPs, so the dynamic ISP assignment is perfectly > fine. > > I think the tech will advance fast enough that keeping up with an IPv6 > route table will be a non-issue. IPv6 adoption is, unfortunately, slow > enough that there will be no issues keeping up, even assuming a "slow" > hardware refresh cycle. > > -M > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 5:48 PM, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote: >> >>> On 2 Mar 2018, at 9:28 am, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 1:20 PM, Harald Koch <c...@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 1 March 2018 at 15:18, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com >>>> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: >>>> Second, RFC-1918 doesn’t apply to IPv6 at all, and (fortunately) hardly >>>> anyone >>>> uses ULA (the IPv6 analogue to RFC-1918). >>>> >>>> Wait. What's the objection to ULA? Is it just that NAT is bad, or is there >>>> something new? >>> >>> No particular objection, but I don’t see the point. >>> >>> What can you do with ULA that GUA isn’t suitable for? >>> >>> Owen >> >> ULA provide stable internal addresses which survive changing ISP >> for the average home user. Now, I know you can do the same thing >> by going to a RIR and getting a prefix but the RIR’s aren’t setup >> to supply prefixes like that to 10 billion of us. >> >> They are also in a specific range which makes setting filtering >> rules easier for everyone else. >> >> Now I would love it if we could support 100 billion routes in the >> DFZ but we aren’t anywhere near being able to do that which would >> be a requirement for abandoning ULA. Until them they have there >> place. >> >> Mark >> -- >> Mark Andrews, ISC >> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia >> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org >>