I wasn't being funny. :-) That was about a quarter to a third of a /wonderful/ #takethat to the *AA...
On April 23, 2015 10:17:51 AM EDT, Ray Soucy <r...@maine.edu> wrote: >Sorry, I know I get long-winded. That's why I don't post as much as I >used >to. ;-) > >On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> wrote: > >> There's an op-ed piece in this posting, Ray. Do you want to write it, >or >> should I? >> >> :-) >> >> >> On April 23, 2015 10:06:42 AM EDT, Ray Soucy <r...@maine.edu> wrote: >>> >>> It's amazing, really. >>> >>> Netflix and YouTube now overtake BitTorrent and all other file >sharing >>> peer-to-peer traffic combined, even on academic networks, by >order(s) of >>> magnitude. The amount of peer-to-peer traffic is not even >significant in >>> comparison. It might as well be IRC from our perspective. >>> >>> Internet usage habits have shifted quite a bit in the past decade. >I >>> think the takeaway is that if you provide content in a way that is >fairly >>> priced and convenient to access (e.g. DRM doesn't get in your way), >most >>> people will opt for the legal route. Something we were trying to >explain >>> to the MPAA and RIAA years ago when they shoved the DMCA down our >throats. >>> >>> I'm certainly in favor of symmetrical service. I think there is a >widely >>> held myth that DOS attacks will take down the Internet when everyone >has >>> more bandwidth. The fact is that DOS attacks are a problem >regardless of >>> bandwidth, and throttling people isn't a solution. The other >(somewhat >>> insulting) argument that people will use greater upload speeds for >illegal >>> activity is pretty bogus as well. >>> >>> The limit on upload bandwidth for most people is a roadblock to a >lot of >>> the services that people will take for granted a decade from now; >cloud >>> backup, residential video surveillance over IP, peer-to-peer high >>> definition video conferencing. And likely a lot of things that we >haven't >>> imagined yet. >>> >>> As funny as it sounds, I think Twitch (streaming video games) has >been >>> the application that has made the younger generation care about >their >>> upload speed more than anything else. They now have a use case >where their >>> limited upload is a real problem for them, and when they find out >their ISP >>> can't provide anything good enough they get pretty upset about it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> >wrote: >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Frank Bulk" <frnk...@iname.com> >>>> >>>> > Those are measured at the campus boundary. I don't have >visibility >>>> inside >>>> > the school's network to know who much intra-campus traffic there >may >>>> be . >>>> > but we know that peer-to-peer is a small percentage of overall >Internet >>>> > traffic flows, and streaming video remains the largets. >>>> >>>> BitTorrent makes special efforts to keep as much traffic local as >>>> possible, >>>> I understand; that probably isn't too helpful... except at scales >like >>>> that >>>> on a resnet at a sizable campus. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- jra >>>> -- >>>> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink >>>> j...@baylink.com >>>> Designer The Things I Think >>>> RFC 2100 >>>> Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 >Land >>>> Rover DII >>>> St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 >727 >>>> 647 1274 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ray Patrick Soucy >>> Network Engineer >>> University of Maine System >>> >>> T: 207-561-3526 >>> F: 207-561-3531 >>> >>> MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network >>> www.maineren.net >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> > > > >-- >Ray Patrick Soucy >Network Engineer >University of Maine System > >T: 207-561-3526 >F: 207-561-3531 > >MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network >www.maineren.net -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
