On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Scott Helms <khe...@zcorum.com> wrote: >> >> I don't know many schools that are open at midnight to accept thumb >> drives. > > I think he was trying to point out that most school libraries, and their > computer labs, open before classes start. Ice never heard of a school > deadline that was actually in the middle of the night, so if you're working > on a paper at night it's because it's due the next day. > >> >> Well kids will be kids. >> > > Very true :) > >> >> Yep. The assumption that because you are sending from home it is >> not time critical is absolutely bogus. Upstream speeds really are >> just as important as downstream speeds. It just that it is not >> normally needed as much of the time. > > This assertion is counter to the choices that consumers are making. Forget > about the access technology and it's symmetry or asymmetry for a moment and > consider the growth of WiFi in the home, which is highly asymmetrical > because clients have much lower power output and most often 0 dB gain > antennas at 2.4 and 5.8. The point is that a great percentage of the > traffic we see is from asymmetric sources even on symmetrical broadband > connections. > The other thing to consider is that LTE is asymmetrical and for the same > reasons as WiFi. > > For consumers to care about symmetrical upload speeds as much as you're > saying why have they been choosing to use technologies that don't deliver > that in WiFi and LTE? In the WiFi case they're taking a symmetrical > connection to their home and making it asymmetrical. I can make a home > WiFi network operate more symmetrically by putting in multiple APs but very > few consumers take that step. > > I'm not done collecting all of our data yet, but just looking at what we > have right now (~17,000 APs) over half of the clients connected have an > upload rate of 5mbps or less. A just over 20% have an average upload rate > of 1mbps. > > BTW, the reason we're working on the WiFi data is that we think this is a > huge problem, because consumers don't separate the performance of the in > home WiFi from their overall broadband experience and we need to > dramatically improve the in home WiFi experience to increase customer > satisfaction.
+10! If you would like to talk to other researchers poking deeply into these fronts, also equipped with large data sets and some rapidly evolving analysis tools, please talk to me offlist. >> >> Mark >> -- >> Mark Andrews, ISC >> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia >> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org -- Dave Täht Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again! https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb