More than one, but I found it here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spamassassin/+bug/1412830
They did patch it after it finally became a problem, I don't know about
any other distributions.
On 02/12/2015 08:09 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Which distro is it that has dnsbl filtering on by default, and also
defaulting to shady no name blocklists?
I have yet to see a case where turning this sort of thing on first and
kicking self later wasn't because of a clueless sysadmin.
On Feb 13, 2015 7:36 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>> wrote:
Of course not, and I didn't mean to imply that they were.
I was surprised to see it still present *anywhere* (this was in a
major Linux distribution, and may still be), and that hidden
presence may be polluting data streams used by even the most
responsible vendors unless they are running entirely self-contained.
On 02/12/2015 07:04 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist
block lists.
On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>>> wrote:
Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl
We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local
installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still
haven't figured it out so there's a lot of false positives
being
generated all over the place to throw off even filters
that don't
use it directly.
On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it.
The server
has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is
proper. This is a recent issue.
From: Scott Helms [mailto:khe...@zcorum.com
<mailto:khe...@zcorum.com>
<mailto:khe...@zcorum.com <mailto:khe...@zcorum.com>>]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
To: Alex Rubenstein
Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
Subject: Re: gmail spam help
I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant
about the
lack of spam from this specific server. A great
percentage of
the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from
very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to
have little
or no over sight in place.
Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by
users,
even when they opted in for the email. If enough people
flagged email from this server as spam it will cause
Google to
consider other email from the same small server as
likely to
be spam as well. Small systems, especially new ones,
tend to
unintentionally look like spam sources by not having
proper
reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the
domain, etc.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
--------------------------------
http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein
<a...@corp.nac.net <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>>> wrote:
I should have been clearer.
I have been getting complaints from my sales folks
that when
they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail
account or google apps) that they recipient is
reporting that
the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I
tested this
myself, sending an email from a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>>> to rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>>><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com
<mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>>>>
[cid:image001.png@01D046AD.3B2FA890]
This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net
<http://corp.nac.net>
<http://corp.nac.net><http://corp.nac.net> is a small
exchange
implementation with only about 50 users behind it, and
there
is no question that there is no spamming going on from
here.
So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not
using gmail;
it is not me who is using gmail in this problem.
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>><mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
To: Alex Rubenstein
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: gmail spam help
Create a filter.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein"
<a...@corp.nac.net <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net
<mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>>>> wrote:
Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world
-> gmail
email issue, where email is being considering spam by
gmail
erroneously?
Thanks.
-- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal
Laboratories, Inc.
dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>
<mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com>>
http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
--
Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal Laboratories, Inc.
dtay...@vocalabs.com http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711
