Which distro is it that has dnsbl filtering on by default, and also defaulting to shady no name blocklists?
I have yet to see a case where turning this sort of thing on first and kicking self later wasn't because of a clueless sysadmin. On Feb 13, 2015 7:36 AM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com> wrote: > Of course not, and I didn't mean to imply that they were. > > I was surprised to see it still present *anywhere* (this was in a major > Linux distribution, and may still be), and that hidden presence may be > polluting data streams used by even the most responsible vendors unless > they are running entirely self-contained. > > On 02/12/2015 07:04 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > >> >> Please. Gmail isn't ever likely to use long dead hobbyist block lists. >> >> On Feb 12, 2015 9:38 PM, "Daniel Taylor" <dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto: >> dtay...@vocalabs.com>> wrote: >> >> Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl >> >> We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local >> installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still >> haven't figured it out so there's a lot of false positives being >> generated all over the place to throw off even filters that don't >> use it directly. >> >> On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote: >> >> Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server >> has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF is >> proper. This is a recent issue. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Scott Helms [mailto:khe...@zcorum.com >> <mailto:khe...@zcorum.com>] >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM >> To: Alex Rubenstein >> Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list >> Subject: Re: gmail spam help >> >> I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the >> lack of spam from this specific server. A great percentage of >> the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from >> very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to have little >> or no over sight in place. >> >> Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by users, >> even when they opted in for the email. If enough people >> flagged email from this server as spam it will cause Google to >> consider other email from the same small server as likely to >> be spam as well. Small systems, especially new ones, tend to >> unintentionally look like spam sources by not having proper >> reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the >> domain, etc. >> >> >> Scott Helms >> Vice President of Technology >> ZCorum >> (678) 507-5000 >> -------------------------------- >> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms >> -------------------------------- >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein >> <a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>> wrote: >> I should have been clearer. >> >> I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when >> they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail >> account or google apps) that they recipient is reporting that >> the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I tested this >> myself, sending an email from a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>> to rubenstei...@gmail.com >> <mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com >> <mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com >> <mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com><mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com >> <mailto:rubenstei...@gmail.com>>> >> >> [cid:image001.png@01D046AD.3B2FA890] >> >> This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net >> <http://corp.nac.net><http://corp.nac.net> is a small exchange >> implementation with only about 50 users behind it, and there >> is no question that there is no spamming going on from here. >> >> So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not using gmail; >> it is not me who is using gmail in this problem. >> >> >> >> From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com><mailto:josh@ >> imaginenetworksllc.com >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>] >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM >> To: Alex Rubenstein >> Cc: NANOG list >> Subject: Re: gmail spam help >> >> >> Create a filter. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein" <a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net><mailto:a...@corp.nac.net >> <mailto:a...@corp.nac.net>>>> wrote: >> Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail >> email issue, where email is being considering spam by gmail >> erroneously? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> -- Daniel Taylor VP Operations Vocal >> Laboratories, Inc. >> dtay...@vocalabs.com <mailto:dtay...@vocalabs.com> >> http://www.vocalabs.com/ (612)235-5711 >> >> >
