Thanks, I am so happy I now understand what an ASN and BGP are. I had no clue!
Fuck it, we don't need BGP anywhere. Everyone go static! Back to the binge drinking now as I started when I first started reading this thread... -Mike On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Brett Glass <na...@brettglass.com> wrote: > Mike: > > An ASN is, literally, just a number. One that's used by a very awkward and > primitive routing system that requires constant babysitting and tweaking > and, after lo these many years, still doesn't deliver the security or > robustness it should. Obtaining this token number (and a bunch of IP > addresses which is no different, qualitatively, from what I already have) > would be a large expense that would not produce any additional value for my > customers but could force me to raise their fees -- something which I > absolutely do not want to do. > > Perhaps it's best to think of it this way: I'm outsourcing some backbone > routing functions to my upstreams, which (generously) aren't charging me > anything extra to do it. In my opinion, that's a good business move. > > As for "peering:" the definition is pretty well established. ISPs do it; > content providers at the edge do not. > > Netflix is fighting a war of semantics and politics with ISPs. It is > trying to cling to every least penny it receives and spend none of it on > the resources it consumes or on making its delivery of content more > efficient. We have been in conversations with it in which we've asked only > for it to be equitable and pay us the same amount per customer as it pays > other ISPs, such as Comcast (since, after all, they should be just as > valuable to it). It has refused to do even that much. That's why talks > have, for the moment, broken down and we are looking at other solutions. > > --Brett Glass > > > At 09:58 PM 7/14/2014, Mike Lyon wrote: > > So we are splitting hairs with what "peering" means? And I am sure >> Netflix (or any other content / network / CDN provider) would be more than >> happy to statically route to you? Doubtful. >> >> Dude, put your big boy pants on, get an ASN, get some IP space, Â I am a >> smaller ISP than you I am sure and I have both. It's not rocket science. >> How are other networks suppose to take you seriously if you don't have an >> ASN? >> >> -Mike >> > > -- Mike Lyon 408-621-4826 mike.l...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
