Matt, While I understand your point _and_ I agree that in most cases an ISP should have an ASN. Having said that, I work with multiple operators around the US that have exactly one somewhat economical choice for connectivity to the rest of the Internet. In that case having a ASN is nice, but serves little to no practical purpose. For clarity's sake all 6 of the ones I am thinking about specifically have more than 5k broadband subs.
I continue to vehemently disagree with the notion that ASN = ISP since many/most of the ASNs represent business networks that have nothing to do with Internet access. Scott Helms Vice President of Technology ZCorum (678) 507-5000 -------------------------------- http://twitter.com/kscotthelms -------------------------------- On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:42 PM, George Herbert <george.herb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Matthew Petach <mpet...@netflight.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Brett's concerns seem to center around his > > > ability to be cost-competitive with the big > > > guys in his area...which implies there *are* > > > big guys in his area to have to compete with. > > > > > > He 's running wireless links, from web and prior info as I recall. His > > key business seems to be outside the cable tv / DSL wire loop ranges from > > wire centers. The bigger services seem to have fiber into Laramie, and > > Brett seems to have fiber to that Denver exchange pointlet . > > > > Why he's not getting fiber to a bigger exchange point or better transit > is > > unclear. > > > > There are bandwidth reseller / BGP / interconnect specialist ISPs out > > there who live to fix these things, if there's anything like a viable > > customer base... > > > > Ah--right, that was the genesis of my rant about > "if you don't have an ASN, you don't exist". > He'd first have to get an ASN before he could > engage in getting a different upstream transit, > or connect to different exchange points, etc. > > As much as people insisted you can be an > ISP without an AS number, I will note that > it's much, MUCH harder, to the point where > the ARIN registration fees for the AS number > would quickly be recouped by the cost savings > of being able to shop for more competitive > connectivity options. > > Matt > > > > > > > > George William Herbert > > Sent from my iPhone > > >
