I would think this is only an issue if they throw out the Fourth in that when they use that data collected "inadvertantly" to build a case a against you they use no other data collected under a proper warrent.
If the purpose was to actually collect data on you, in the event you do something , they can simply run a query against this data post court order...then that's crossing the line. I personally think there is nothing wrong with monitoring US communications - big difference between monitoring US communications and monitoring US persons communications. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Dan White <dwh...@olp.net> wrote: > On 06/09/13 11:10 -0500, Dan White wrote: > >> Let me put my gold tipped tinfoil hat on in response to your statement. >> > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/**world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-** > nsa-without-warrant<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant> > > If accurate, this is extremely concerning: > > > > Top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance > by US > intelligence agencies show the judges have signed off on broad orders > which > allow the NSA to make use of information "inadvertently" collected from > domestic US communications without a warrant. > > The documents show that even under authorities governing the collection > of > foreign intelligence from foreign targets, US communications can still be > collected, retained and used. > > ...However, alongside those provisions, the Fisa court-approved policies > allow the NSA to: > > • Keep data that could potentially contain details of US persons for up > to five years; > > Retain and make use of "inadvertently acquired" domestic communications > if they contain usable intelligence, information on criminal activity, > threat of harm to people or property, are encrypted, or are believed to > contain any information relevant to cybersecurity; > > > > All protections afforded by the fourth amendment have essentially been > thrown into the (rather large) bit bucket by the FISA court, when it comes > to any bits which leave your premise. > > -- > Dan White > > -- Phil Fagan Denver, CO 970-480-7618
