On Jun 17, 2012 7:46 PM, "Vinny Abello" <vi...@abellohome.net> wrote: > > On 6/17/2012 10:22 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > > On 6/17/12, Joel jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote: > > [snip] > >> resources were delegated to them. future prefix assignments will > >> clearly require that the demonstrate utilization much as they are > >> required to in ipv4. > > > > Sure. But they don't necessarily have to have WHOIS listings up to > > date in order to successfully demonstrate utilization; it is possible > > they provide private documentation or utilize the spreadsheet method > > of demonstrating utilization, without publishing details in WHOIS, > > and indicate they themselves serve as contact. > > > > > > The IP address WHOIS database is a system for identifying valid > > network contacts to report connectivity and operational issues to, > > and the contact listed in WHOIS for a network does not necessarily > > have to be an organization capable of identifying an individual user > > or customer. > > > > WHOIS is not a system for tracing IP addresses down to an individual > user level, > > not with IPv6, not with IPv4. > Thanks for clearly stating this, Jimmy. This is largely my point with > WHOIS as well, although I may not have expressed it clearly. > > Along the same lines, WHOIS is not Geolocation (as poorly as that > technology works, frequently because it's partly or mostly built on > WHOIS data to begin with). The registered place of business an > assignment points to, which may be completely accurate for valid network > contacts at a company headquarters, doesn't dictate satellite offices > are at the same address, city, state or country which may make up 90% of > the use of the entire allocation... just as one example. This is > abundant in enterprises. > > -Vinny
+1 to Jimmy and Vinny, and going back to the OP. .. This is why the article is poorly formed. Whois evolution and practices are NOT a speedbump for ipv6 deployment. Traceroute is likely more informative than whois. ...or looking at a bgp as path... For both ipv4 and ipv6 You think whois traceability is a problem in ipv6? It is nothing compared to ipv4 CGN traceability challenges.... Which the article also mentions. CB
