>> the worry in the ripe region and elsewhere is what i call the 'virginia
>> court attack', also called the 'dutch court attack'.  some rights holder
>> claims their movie is being hosted in your datacenter and they get the
>> RIR to jerk the attestation to your ownership of the prefix or your ROA.
> 
> If a Dutch court would order the RIPE NCC to remove a certificate or ROA from 
> the system, the effect would be that there no longer is an RPKI statement 
> about a BGP route announcement. The result is that the announcement will have 
> the RPKI status *UNKNOWN*. It will be like the organization never used RPKI 
> to make the statement in the first place. 
> 
> Thus, removing a certificate or ROA *does NOT* result in an RPKI INVALID 
> route announcement; the result is RPKI UNKNOWN.
> 
> The only way a court order could make a route announcement get the RPKI 
> status *INVALID* would be to:
> 1: Remove the original, legitimate ROA
> 2: Tamper with the Registry, inject a false ROA authorizing another AS to 
> make the announcement look like a hijack

How does this interact with the presence of certificates for supernets, though? 
 That is, suppose an ISP creates a legitimate ROA for 12.0.0.0/8, after 
ensuring that all of its customers have legitimate ROAs for the various subnets 
of 12.0.0.0/8.  Now, suppose one of these customers has its legitimate ROA 
revoked by a court order.  Would the legitimate announcement of that subnet 
(originated by the customer's ASN) still result in UNKNOWN status, or would it 
look like a sub-prefix hijack because the announcement has a different ASN than 
the matching 12.0.0.0/8 prefix?

-- Jen


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