USF is more of a free for all get ISPs to build in 80% of the locations that 
nobody would build in their right mind vs a mini monopoly model for l2 that I 
equate this with.
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Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote:

We've been funding it for years without getting it because of the stupid way in 
which it has been funded.

I suggest you look into USF in more detail.

Owen

On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Joseph Snyder wrote:

> Lol too early in the morning, that much for so few, but if you are going to 
> govt fund copper replacement, it's probably the way to go. Not sure how 
> costly that would be in the US since even in the cities there are a lot of 
> duplexes.
> -- 
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 
> Joseph Snyder <joseph.sny...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Any details on how much this cost, maybe I just missed it in the article. 
> 40k. It sounds interesting but in the US this would only make sense in cities 
> and most people don't live in MDUs. Where I live a lot of peoples driveways 
> are a mile or two long.
> 
> Marcel Plug <marcelp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This article from arstechnica is right on topic. Its about how the
> city of Amsterdam built an open-access fibre network. It seems to me
> this is the right way to do it, or at least very close to the right
> way..
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars
> 
> -Marcel
> 
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM, <valdis.kletni...@vt.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:18:26 -1000, Michael Painter said:
>> 
>>> "The indication of above average or below average is based on a comparison 
>>> of the actual test result to the current NTIA
>>> definition of broadband which is 768 kbps download and 200 kbps upload. Any 
>>> test result above the NTIA definition is
>>> considered above average, and any result below is considered below average."
>> 
>> That's the national definition of "broadband" that we're stuck with. To show
>> how totally cooked the books are, consider that when they compute "percent of
>> people with access to residential broadband", they do it on a per-county 
>> basis
>> - and if even *one* subscriber in one corner of the county has broadband, the
>> entire county counts.
>> 

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