On Dec 9, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:

> I can tell you that (as of Dec 2011) *lots and lots* of networks (big ones, 
> even some of the biggest) are in no real position to support nearly universal 
> customer IPv6 service yet. There are networks that have IPv6 "somewhere".. 
> but even where we've been requesting IPv6 turned up alongside existing IPv4 
> sessions sometimes the turnaround is months and months with lots of repeated 
> banging -- even where the gear and the uplinks support it.

I think you are working with the wrong carriers in that case perhaps?  As part 
of a turn-up this year, IPv6 was a standard question, including the IP/BGP 
request form that had separate tabs for IPv6 and address space requests 
along-side the IPv4 BGP/space request.  The cases were with Cogent and Abovenet 
for connections in the US.  I know that NTT can also do IPv6 as well.  I think 
that some of what you may be terming the big-guys such as at&t and 
verizon/uunet are still behind the curve but they are largely in the managed 
services and not internet space from what I can tell.  Internet is a side thing 
they sell and not a primary line of business.

> Some of this is that (esp internal) tools still aren't where they need to be. 
> Some of this is that once we IPv6 becomes the "standard"... well, security 
> and other concerns will challenge all the infrastructure in place.

I do agree that most tools seem to be IPv4 centric these days at least for 
management of the device (Eg: no SNMP over IPv6 only).

You can do much of the monitoring over IPv6.
 
> And this is all before you get into issues of inconsistent views of the IPv6 
> RIB, and the rest.

While this still exists, this is something that will resolve itself with 
increased adoption.

> 
> Just my opinion, hopefully someone else has a better experience.

My experience as well.

- Jared

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