On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:

> 
> On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:48 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> You are correct that consensus doesn't assure legality; hence
>> all draft policies receive a specific staff and legal review 
>> during the development process. 
> 
> Thanks, John.  I'm aware of the legal review, as well as the AC and board 
> "gateways" to policy adoption.  I don't have any recommendation for improving 
> that process, per se - just a healthy dose of skepticism that it will always 
> result in alignment with the law, especially given that the legal authority 
> of ARIN isn't clearly defined.
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> As to reflecting community standards, I'm not sure what better measure of 
>> "community standards"
>> one could propose beyond a bottom-up open consensus driven policy process 
>> such as what
>> we have today.
> 
> Owen, my point is that the ARIN community does not necessarily reflect the 
> community at large.  Just like the common standards within the mafia 
> community aren't necessarily aligned with the broader standards of civil 
> society.
> 
It reflects those who care to participate. The process is open to anyone in the 
community that want to. That's as close as any body ever comes to such a thing.

Just like you don't get better politicians unless you vote, you can't get 
better ARIN policy unless you participate.

> If ARIN is appointed in an official capacity (i.e. granted such authority by 
> the government, or by popular vote etc) to determine specific community 
> standards then we don't have to worry.  Otherwise, ARIN has to work carefully 
> to ensure that it doesn't go awry.  In that sense, the relative smallness of 
> the ARIN community and ARIN's organizational momentum (natural to any 
> self-preserving organization) should be of concern.
> 
An interesting perspective.

Owen


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