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On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:27 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> If I justified an allocation 20 years ago, under the then current policy, 
> it's presumptuous to presume the power of expropriation.

No one presumes it, and a lot of us are in the same boat as you, some of the 
addresses we're using predating the RIR system.

That said, there will always be people who will turn up on the mailing list, 
participating in the public policy process, who are not in that boat, and whose 
interests differ significantly, and who will speak in favor of those interests.

And the consensus of the public, the people who participate in the public 
policy process, is what decides 

> If the RIR's and there active members want to take my right to use space 
> away...

This is hyperbole.  The RIRs are not people, they have no desires, other 
perhaps than that of self-perpetuation.

I haven't heard _anyone_, active RIR member or otherwise, suggest that a right 
to _use_ space should be rescinded.  The only thing I've heard even the most 
vehement pro-reclamation people argue in favor of is reclamation of _unused_ 
space.

> I'm pretty sure that those arguments are going to be tested in the courts.


And ultimately, the courts uphold community standards.  Which is what the 
public expects.  If the community uses the public policy process to set a 
standard that you cannot meet, it's very _very_ unlikely that a court would 
side with you in the long term.  The community we live in generally believes 
that paint shouldn't have lead in it, and cars should have seatbelts, and 
people shouldn't beat their children when they get frustrated, and although 
each of those things was deemed a god-given right at one time, the courts would 
not side with someone who did any of them, anymore.

So I think the two questions here are whether you really have a grievance (I 
don't believe you do, since you haven't described a problem that many of the 
rest of us wouldn't also face), and if so, whether and how you can better your 
lot (and I think the answer to that is to participate in the public policy 
process and help establish community norms that you're comfortable with, rather 
than hoping that a court will buck the tide).

                                -Bill




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