----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blake Dunlap" <iki...@gmail.com>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 22:34, Jay Ashworth <j...@baylink.com> wrote: > > > I won't run an edge-network that *isn't* NATted; my internal machines > > have no business having publicly routable addresses. No one has *ever* > > provided me with a serviceable explanation as to why that's an > > invalid view. > Quite simply, its called Tragedy of the Commons. Everyone else has to > work harder to provide you services if you are using something which breaks > end to end connectivity, which costs everyone else money. The protocol > designers are making a stand against this for the good of the "commons". You'll have to document "everyone has to work harder to provide me services"; this is not my first rodeo, and TTBOMK, it's *transparent* to the other end of any connection out of my edge network that it's NATted at my end. As for incoming connections, it's transparent to them as well -- and which ones are valid targets for such connections *is a policy decision of mine*, not subject to external opinion. Could you clarify, in some detail, precisely how you get to TotC, Blake? Cheers, -- jra