On Fri, Dec 03, 2010, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

> > (OK, so it's not as practical when you have other customers to worry
> > about... but it might not be so crazy when you're looking at the
> > efficiency numbers for 100,000 small 1u power supplies vs a set
> > of much larger ones.)
> 
> Ohm's law is a bitch. 10kamp -48v DC plants are bad enough as far as the 
> amount of copper required, running 12v for significant distance is comical, 
> this is the reason small boats airplanes and diesel trucks adopt 24v systems. 
> There's probably some model where top of rack rectifiers makes sense but 
> that's really pretty much what a blade server is. When you look at a 
> motherboard in a server a big chunk of of real-estate is devoted to taking 
> 12v and switching it down to 1.2-1.8 for distribution to the CPU/memory, a 4 
> socket server might have to carry 400amp around in a space of around 300cm^2 
> on a layer of the pcb. 
> 
> The justification for running 208 or 480 all the way to a cabinet is all 
> about smaller conductors.

Isn't this one area where Google have already (re-)pioneered recently?

Besides, there's a reason why AC won over DC for carrying 0 < x < few hundred 
(or thousand? Amps) over a reasonable distance. IANA-PowerEngineer, but
ISTR the behaviour/efficiency of voltage/current over distance for both
AC and DC is well understood. (And no, ISTR it isn't "AC wins." :-)

If you're at all serious about discussing this, I bet spending 15 minutes
doing some research and then an hour or so crafting some simultaneous equations
to solve/graph would be very very eye-opening.

Come on guys/girls, you're a bright bunch, post some models and discuss
those rather than un-substantiated datapoints! :-)

2c,


Adrian


Reply via email to