Russian crew on a Chinese vessel.
I mean how can anyone even doubt the intent.

This is such a tragic comedy on many levels.

Frank


On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 5:12 PM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:

>  I think sabotage implies intent.
>
>
> Even the most incompetent crew of an ocean going vessel knows if their
> anchor has dropped. And if by chance that's happened, they don't drag it
> around for a few hundred miles before they stop and pull it back in again.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:58 AM Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> I think sabotage implies intent.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Daniel Golding" <dgold...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Mark Tinka" <mark@tinka.africa>
>> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org
>> *Sent: *Thursday, November 21, 2024 9:41:31 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: 2 undersea cables cut
>>
>> I'm not sure what hard evidence you might like. There are a small number
>> of methods by which submarine cables become damaged - anchors are right up
>> there. In this particular case, there aren't a lot of other possibilities.
>>
>> There are only two cable repair ships. It will be a while before there
>> can be forensic examination.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:29 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/21/24 14:43, Emile Aben wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 10:43, Hank Nussbacher <h...@efes.iucc.ac.il>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/18/europe/undersea-cable-disrupted-germany-finland-intl/index.html
>>>>
>>>> -Hank
>>>>
>>>
>>> We looked into how RIPE Atlas saw these cable cuts:
>>> https://labs.ripe.net/author/emileaben/does-the-internet-route-around-damage-baltic-sea-cable-cuts/
>>>  .
>>> I hope this audience finds that interesting.
>>>
>>>
>>> The rumours floating around about this being sabotage, with no hard
>>> evidence supporting such claims, is pretty wild.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>
>>

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