Can you have an ethernet switch with dying gasp? Our ONTs (Calix, PON) have it but I don't see how you'd do it with ethernet.
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 11:25 AM Tom Samplonius <t...@samplonius.org> wrote: > > Adva, RAD, and Telco Systems are all good NID options. > > You can go with just any switch, but “proper” NIDs have dying gasp. If > the NID is going on a customer premise, I consider dying gasp a must. The > dying gasp allows your NOC to determine the difference between a network > break and fiber cut. > > > Tom > > > > On Nov 27, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > Around here, Spectrum uses an Adva for demarc and it can not do rfc2544 > testing. They will unplug the Adva and plug in the techs' mobile unit > (Viavi I think). VZW/Tmo/Sprint/etc don't seem to mind. > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:34 AM Ryan Hamel <r...@rkhtech.org> wrote: > >> The problem with using switches as a CPE device is the lack of RFC2544 >> (or equivalent) testing, and monitoring of the complete circuit with TWAMP. >> Both of which are used to ensure compliance with an SLA. >> >> Ryan Hamel >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org> on behalf of >> Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2023 6:14 AM >> *To:* Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au> >> *Cc:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> >> *Subject:* Re: CPE/NID options >> >> Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take >> care when clicking links or opening attachments. >> >> When you say fiber, is it Ethernet? If you just want layer 2 and a media >> converter, Mikrotik is a super good answer. >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:19 AM Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Ross, >> >> I've found these Mikrotik devices to be excellent and reliable: >> >> CRS310-8G+2S+IN: 8 x 2.5G copper ethernet ports, 2 x SFP+ cages, >> rack-mountable. Uses a single DC barrel-jack. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs310_8g_2s_in >> CRS305-1G-4S+IN: 4 x SFP+ cages, dual DC barrel-jack ports for redundant >> power, 1 x 1G copper ethernet port for OOB management. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in >> CRS310-1G-5S-4S+OUT: 4 x SFP+ cages, 5 x SFP cages, 1 x 1G copper >> ethernet port for OOB management, can be mounted outdoors. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/netfiber_9 >> >> MSRP on all three are at or below $249.00 so are priced quite reasonably. >> If you only need SFP+ cages I'd opt for the CRS305-1G-4S+IN. >> >> Regards, >> Christopher Hawker >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin...@nanog.org> on behalf >> of Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io> >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 23, 2023 3:41 PM >> *To:* North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org> >> *Subject:* CPE/NID options >> >> I'm evaluating CPEs for one of my clients, a regional ISP. Currently, >> we're terminating the customer's service (L3) on our upstream equipment and >> extending it over our own fiber to the customer's premise, where it lands >> in a Juniper EX2200 or EX2300. >> >> At a previous job, I used Accedian's ANTs on the customer prem side. I >> like the ANT because it has a small footprint with only 2 ports, it's >> passively cooled, it's very simple to operate, it's controlled centrally, >> etc. Unfortunately, when I reached out to Accedian, they insisted that the >> controller (which is required) started at $30k, which is a non-starter for >> us. >> >> I'm not aware of any other products like this. Does anyone have a >> recommendation for a simple L2* device to deploy to customer premises? Not >> necessarily the exact same thing, but something similarly-featured would be >> ideal. >> >> *I'm not sure if the ANT is exactly "layer 2", but I don't know what else >> to call it. >> >> >
