Adva, RAD, and Telco Systems are all good NID options. You can go with just any switch, but “proper” NIDs have dying gasp. If the NID is going on a customer premise, I consider dying gasp a must. The dying gasp allows your NOC to determine the difference between a network break and fiber cut.
Tom > On Nov 27, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > Around here, Spectrum uses an Adva for demarc and it can not do rfc2544 > testing. They will unplug the Adva and plug in the techs' mobile unit (Viavi > I think). VZW/Tmo/Sprint/etc don't seem to mind. > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:34 AM Ryan Hamel <r...@rkhtech.org > <mailto:r...@rkhtech.org>> wrote: >> The problem with using switches as a CPE device is the lack of RFC2544 (or >> equivalent) testing, and monitoring of the complete circuit with TWAMP. Both >> of which are used to ensure compliance with an SLA. >> >> Ryan Hamel >> >> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org >> <mailto:rkhtech....@nanog.org>> on behalf of Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> >> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 6:14 AM >> To: Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au <mailto:ch...@thesysadmin.au>> >> Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org >> <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> >> Subject: Re: CPE/NID options >> >> Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care >> when clicking links or opening attachments. >> >> When you say fiber, is it Ethernet? If you just want layer 2 and a media >> converter, Mikrotik is a super good answer. >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:19 AM Christopher Hawker <ch...@thesysadmin.au >> <mailto:ch...@thesysadmin.au>> wrote: >> Hi Ross, >> >> I've found these Mikrotik devices to be excellent and reliable: >> >> CRS310-8G+2S+IN: 8 x 2.5G copper ethernet ports, 2 x SFP+ cages, >> rack-mountable. Uses a single DC barrel-jack. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs310_8g_2s_in >> CRS305-1G-4S+IN: 4 x SFP+ cages, dual DC barrel-jack ports for redundant >> power, 1 x 1G copper ethernet port for OOB management. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in >> CRS310-1G-5S-4S+OUT: 4 x SFP+ cages, 5 x SFP cages, 1 x 1G copper ethernet >> port for OOB management, can be mounted outdoors. >> https://mikrotik.com/product/netfiber_9 >> >> MSRP on all three are at or below $249.00 so are priced quite reasonably. If >> you only need SFP+ cages I'd opt for the CRS305-1G-4S+IN. >> >> Regards, >> Christopher Hawker >> >> >> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+chris=thesysadmin...@nanog.org >> <mailto:thesysadmin...@nanog.org>> on behalf of Ross Tajvar <r...@tajvar.io >> <mailto:r...@tajvar.io>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 3:41 PM >> To: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org >> <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> >> Subject: CPE/NID options >> >> I'm evaluating CPEs for one of my clients, a regional ISP. Currently, we're >> terminating the customer's service (L3) on our upstream equipment and >> extending it over our own fiber to the customer's premise, where it lands in >> a Juniper EX2200 or EX2300. >> >> At a previous job, I used Accedian's ANTs on the customer prem side. I like >> the ANT because it has a small footprint with only 2 ports, it's passively >> cooled, it's very simple to operate, it's controlled centrally, etc. >> Unfortunately, when I reached out to Accedian, they insisted that the >> controller (which is required) started at $30k, which is a non-starter for >> us. >> >> I'm not aware of any other products like this. Does anyone have a >> recommendation for a simple L2* device to deploy to customer premises? Not >> necessarily the exact same thing, but something similarly-featured would be >> ideal. >> >> *I'm not sure if the ANT is exactly "layer 2", but I don't know what else to >> call it.
