> > What network does Nanog-news operate? > > Marketing email doesn’t belong on an operational list. Even if its NANOG > marketing itself. (Ack Kentik non involvement). >
This is the right comment. The NANOG Mailing List Usage Guidelines ( https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ ) are fairly clear about this. Posts to NANOG’s Mailing List should be focused on operational and > technical content only, as described by the NANOG Bylaws. > Using the NANOG Mailing List as a source for private marketing > initiatives, or product marketing of any kind, is prohibited. Sending this type of message to nanog@ is not appropriate, by our own rules. This issue will be raised at the next members meeting. On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 9:39 PM Martin Hannigan <hanni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What network does Nanog-news operate? > > Marketing email doesn’t belong on an operational list. Even if its NANOG > marketing itself. (Ack Kentik non involvement). > > Warm regards, > > -M< > > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 20:52 Ryan Hamel <r...@rkhtech.org> wrote: > >> Randy, >> >> You're right, the problem is not technical. It's a choice to click the >> links or not. NANOG does not have to sanitize links for you. Those emails >> do not have to be read, and no one is stopping you from filtering them out. >> For you to say, "my privacy has been sold", is simply not true. >> >> Ryan >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech....@nanog.org> on behalf of >> Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 8, 2023 5:25 PM >> *To:* John Gilmore <g...@toad.com> >> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org> >> *Subject:* Re: Guest Column: Kentik's Doug Madory, Last Call for >> Upcoming ISOC Course + More >> >> Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care >> when clicking links or opening attachments. >> >> >> > It is totally possible to turn off the spyware in MailChimp. You just >> > need to buy an actual commercial account rather than using their >> > "free" service. To save $13 or $20 per month, you are instead selling >> > the privacy of every recipient of your emails. See: >> > >> > >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fenable-and-view-click-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Pw6uDgHDzT%2BavOz1jYAbG4VzTyP0en0oiuBq0PmTtVI%3D&reserved=0 >> <https://mailchimp.com/help/enable-and-view-click-tracking/> >> > >> > "Check the Track clicks box to enable click tracking, or uncheck the >> > box to disable click tracking. ... Mailchimp will continue to >> > redirect URLs for users with free account plans to protect against >> > malicious links. ... When a paid user turns off click tracking, >> > Mailchimp will continue to redirect their URLs until certain account >> > activity thresholds are met." >> > >> > Don't forget to turn off the spyware 1x1 pixel "web bugs" that >> > MailChimp inserts by default, too: >> > >> > >> https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailchimp.com%2Fhelp%2Fabout-open-tracking%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C4ac3a26bb5c4481c087908dbb0cbc6d7%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638298161499653329%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=iqkTsuhDFD3poxVltrN4x%2FWY6eXpbIivWxf4VAWcXKA%3D&reserved=0 >> <https://mailchimp.com/help/about-open-tracking/> >> >> >> as usual, the problem is not technical. there is no need for mailchump >> at all. >> >> nanog management has made a very intentional decision to sell my >> privacy. nanog has come a long way, not all of it good. >> >> randy >> >
