Second for NTT. We have found that their pricing wasn’t to far off from HE. I can count on one hand in 10 years how many times we had issues and needed to contact them.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 14:06 David Hubbard <dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote: > I’ve been pretty happy with NTT but their POPs can be limited; I’ve had to > pick up waves to them, which sometimes still comes out ahead. I’m slowly > dropping Cogent due to the v6 issues. I haven’t been able to try HE > because they and a frequent colo provider I use (Switch) don’t seem to get > along. > > > > *From: *NANOG <nanog-bounces+dhubbard=dino.hostasaurus....@nanog.org> on > behalf of Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> > *Date: *Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 11:52 AM > *To: *NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> > *Subject: *Viable Third Option? > > > > This is from the perspective of an eyeball network. I understand that > content networks would have different objectives and reasons. For instance, > I have little to no reason as an eyeball network to exchange traffic with > any other eyeball network (aside from P2P games). For a content network, > getting into the eyeball networks is their objective. > > > > My crystal ball tells me this thread will spiral out of control because > people won't be able to keep it on topic, but it is a question that I hear > VERY often. I also expect a lot of purely bad or outdated information to > get thrown out. > > > > Please try to keep it on topic and not being pedantic over relatively > unimportant details. > > > > There are two major low-cost providers, Cogent and HE. > > > > Cogent > > - Refuses to peer IPv6 with HE > - Refuses to peer IPv6 with Google > - Aggressive sales tactics > > Hurricane > > - Doesn't have Cogent IPv6 because of Cogent's refusal > - Lack of communities for anything other than blackholes > > > > I know there are a variety of other providers such as Fusion Network that > operate at similar price points, but are available in way fewer locations. > > > > What else is out there? Anyone else that isn't 5x, 10x the cost? > > > > Cogent and HE get looked down upon (and sometimes deservedly so), but when > I talk to someone trying to sell me a port in 350 Cermak for 8x the cost of > Cogent and HE, you better have a very good argument for why you're worth > it... and they never do. "We're not Cogent." "and?" Many times I'm quoted > transit that costs more than Cogent + IX + HE and they don't really have a > good argument for it. > > > > As an eyeball, I join an IX and there goes 50% - 85% of my traffic and > almost all of my traffic that anyone is going to notice or complain about > if there are issues (video streaming). > > > > I do understand that enterprise eyeballs may have different requirements. > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image: > Image removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[image: > Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[image: Image > removed by sender.] <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[image: Image removed by > sender.] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >
