On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:18 PM Elad Cohen <e...@netstyle.io> wrote:
> Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts.
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html

"At the source BGP router, for any ip packet with a source address
that is from the network of the source BGP router (lets call it
original ip packet) - the source BGP router will create a new ip
packet "

How long have you been around Elad? I expect such ideas from a junior
network engineer. It's part of the learning process.

For example, in this case it's dysfunctional for an intermediate
router that may be on one of several equal-cost paths to hold packets
awaiting their companions. Even if you found a way to embed the
information in the base packet, backbone-level routers simply don't
have the capacity to do complex security evaluations (e.g. encryption)
on individual packets. The cost of changing that would be phenomenal.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



>
>
> And SPAM:
>
>
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html
>
>
> These should be submitted as RFCs, but on April 1st next year :)
>
>
> This could only be funnier if he wasn't dead serious and attempting to gain 
> power in RIPE right at this moment. Never in my life have I encountered such 
> an obvious and clear example of the Dunning-Kruger effect[1]. He's entrenched 
> right at the peak of "Mount Stupid"[2] (he appears committed to building a 
> tower there).
>
>
> Ref:
>
> [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
>
> [2] 
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect_01.svg
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>    Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
>      Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
>
> Please quote relevant replies.
> Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
> ________________________________
> From: David Hubbard <dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read.  You clearly don’t have 
> even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet 
> display concept is simply for human benefit.  IPv6 can be implemented with 
> ‘software updates’ too…
>
> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Elad Cohen 
> <e...@netstyle.io>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM
> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <r...@tristatelogic.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" 
> <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald 
> Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out of hospital after full 
> anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself.
>
> What was done towards me and what being done to me by Ronald is an 
> intentional personal attack against me and I will explain.
>
> I didn't agree to provide private business documents to the illegal anonymous 
> organization "The Spamhaus Project" that they tried to extort from me - then 
> I found out who are the real people behind the illegal anonymous organization 
> "The Spamhaus Project" - and then they started to attack me (including here 
> on Nanog, with false information, when I was out of hospital and wasn't in 
> the condition to respond to them).
>
> "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to 
> their own words in their own following presentation:
>
> https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation
>
> They wrote in it that they receive on a regular basis - massive amount of 
> illegaly-obtained privacy data from their contacts in many internet companies 
> and internet organizations - and then they share it in illegal way (without 
> any warrant) with Law Enforcement Agencies - this is the reason that Law 
> Enforcement Agencies are doing nothing regarding the illegal anonymous 
> organization "The Spamhaus Project".
>
> Ronald Guilmette is the front person of the illegal anonymous organization 
> "The Spamhaus Project".
>
>
> ----
> and that said legal counsel has then
> proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
> South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
> to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block
> ----
> This is a complete lie, in order to shame CoCT I will not share their 
> internal correspondences. Anyone interested to know more information can 
> email me directly.
>
>
> ----
> "I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell, trade, or 
> barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block"
> ----
> Ronald is "assured" exactly as he is "assured" that all Dutch people are 
> criminals and all Colombian network oeprators are criminals and all Chicago 
> citizens are criminals according to his statements in the following links:
> https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX
> https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ
> https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz
>
> Ronald was called an antisemitic and a racist person here on Nanog in the 
> following two links, by people which are not related to me:
> https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk
> https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz
>
>
> In the first "The Ronald Show" many months ago - Ronald called me in two 
> antisemitic names that are being used to relate to Jews in Shakespeare 
> literature (just like Ronald is relating to Shakespeare in 
> https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX ) - as part of his defamation campaign towards me - 
> none of you raised a voice and not only that but some Nanog subscribers 
> enjoyed his racism and antisemitism (without a single proof against me) as 
> was written here by them (with a popcorn).
>
> The "source" in "The Spamhaus Project" that supported and pumped Ronald 
> Imagination is the criminal of the anonymous twitter account: 
> https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person according to his own words 
> in his own criminal anonymous twitter account - is a master of cyber 
> influence operations (meaning to influence people without a single proof) - 
> that person is also an employee of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge and they 
> are a direct competitor of a company that used the netblocks that Ronald 
> attacked - not only that but Ronald also attacked another Israeli-based 
> company called Divineworks (here in Nanog) and they are also a direct 
> competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge. What was done here is a 
> cyber influence operation without a single proof because of a business 
> competition.
>
> That criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach which is a member of "The 
> Spamhaus Project" and pumped Ronald Imagination - is not the only person 
> which is abusing the power of "The Spamhaus Project" for commericial goals, 
> that are many many more people and companies behind the illegal anonymous 
> organization "The Spamhaus Project" which are making profit from it, for 
> example:
>
> - Vincent Schonau from Open-Xchange (AKA "Vincenet Hanna" of "The Spamhaus 
> Project") that "The Spamhaus Project" is attacking the competitors of 
> Open-Xchange.
> - Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal 
> service (https://wordtothewise.com)
>
> Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project":
>
> "Mike Anderson" - Michael O'Reirdan (Chairman Emeritus of W3AAWG) and 
> Professor Ross Anderson from Cambridge university (both known as "Mike 
> Anderson" of "The Spamhaus Project")
> "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/)
> "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas 
> (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/)
> "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/)
> "Vincent Hanna" -  Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange 
> (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/)
> "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security 
> (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/)
> Among others.
>
> Companies behind the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project":
> ThreatSTOP
> FarSight Security
> Fastly
> Dyn
> Cymru
> Abusix
> Among others.
>
>
> Regarding the article that Ronald shared, in it there is clearly written:
>
> "It must be noted that Cohen is not being accused of any illegal activity in 
> this report."
>
> But it doesn't change the fact that the article was clearly written only for 
> Ronald to be able to post it and to proceed with the illegal "cyber influence 
> operation" to attack me without a single proof. The article was written by 
> the instruction of the "The Spamhaus Project" mob and then Ronald made this 
> post according to the instruction from "The Spamhaus Project" mob. A 
> coordinated illegal "cyber influence operation" without a single proof.
>
>
> Many subscribers of the Nanog list are members of the illegal anonymous 
> organization "The Spamhaus Project" - Ronald Guilmette is just their front 
> clown - expect many of them to jump now and to defame me here without a 
> single proof (because this is how the illegal anonynous organization "The 
> Spamhaus Project" works) - and you can ask them a simple single question - 
> "show us a single proof" - and - "if you cannot show us a single proof then 
> please stop spamming the mailing list".
>
> Ronald at the end of his post keep spreading lies and writing:
> "less than honorable intent reach for power"
> "to persons with an interest only in what is best for them personally, to the 
> exclusion of all else"
> "Democracy dies in darkness."
>
> When in reality I invented three new pantets for the best of the whole 
> Internet community and I will work to implement them if I will be elected:
>
> IPv4+ that will mitigate the "IPv4 Exhaustion" problem and will add more 
> 4,294,967,296 IPv4 addresses: (can be implemented with software updates and 
> not all internet hosts in the world will have to be updated - home routers 
> and home modems which are the vast majority of routing equipment in the world 
> - will not need to be updated and will support more 4,294,967,296 IPv4 
> addresses with IPv4+ )
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003676.html
>
> Completely mitigating the global email spam problem in a clean and automatic 
> way: (and also mitigating the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus 
> Project")
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003778.html
>
> Completely mitigating spoofed ip amplification DDoS attacks and spoofed ip 
> traffic with is a source for criminality:
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/members-discuss/2020-April/003902.html
>
> They ("The Spamhaus Project" mob) wants to keep controlling RIPE and any 
> other internet organizations - I want to liberate RIPE - I want to make sure 
> that that illegal anonymous organization that violates any thing which is 
> sacred in the Interent (freedom, free speech and connectivity) - will have no 
> footprint in RIPE.
>
> My full agenda can be read here:
> https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/candidate-biographies#elad_cohen
>
> Ronald is afraid from me being elected because he knows that if I will be 
> elected I will put an end to the illgal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus 
> Project" which is intimidating and harassing many organizations and many 
> businesses worldwide.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Elad
> ________________________________
> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette 
> <r...@tristatelogic.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Many of you here may be dues-paying members of both ARIN and RIPE.
>
> Those of you who are may wish to be aware of the fact that there will
> be an election held on (I believe) May 14th, just a day or two from
> now, for three open RIPE NCC Executive Board seats.
>
> I have it on good authority that one of the candidates running for
> the open RIPE NCC board seats in this election has hired legal
> counsel in South Africa, and that said legal counsel has then
> proceeded to threaten various officials of the City of Cape Town,
> South Africa with possible legal action if they do not relinquish
> to him their rights in and title to the 165.25.0.0/16 block, a
> block that all historical records, including even ARIN "WhoWas"
> historical records show, clearly and unambiguously, has been
> legally registered to the City of Cape Town for over twenty years.
> (I am assured that at no time did the City of Cape Town ever sell,
> trade, or barter away their rights to this valuable IPv4 block,
> and that they are defending themselves, as best as they can, against
> this attempt to extort them out of their rightful prooperty.)
>
> Where I come from, this kind of thing is called barratry, but you
> be the judge.
>
> In any case, prior to the RIPE election, I wanted to let you all
> know these facts about the candidate in question, as well as a
> number of additional startling facts relating to the people who
> nominated this candidate for a RIPE NCC Executive board seat, as
> documented by my friend, South African journalist Jan Vermeulen:
>
> https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/350973-man-connected-to-african-ip-address-heist-running-for-board-position-at-european-ip-address-organisation.html
>
> I could go into more detail about many of the nominators mentioned
> in the above article, but I don't want to make this email too long,
> so I'll await some explict request for that additional info.  For now
> it should suffice to make at least some of the basic facts more widely
> available, a task which is accomplished just by sharing the above link,
> IMHO.
>
>
> Regards,
> rfg
>
>
> P.S.  I have been specifically and explicitly enjoined and constrained
> from posting here anything at all that might smack of being either
> partisan or of an even vaguely "political" nature, and thus, I will
> refrain from doing so.  I would be remiss hoever if I did not at least
> note in passing that history records that in times such as these, when
> people of good character and good intent are, as they rightly should be,
> focused on the health and safety of themselves, their loved ones, and
> their professional collegues, and when the gaze of the world is elsewhere,
> persons of less than honorable intent reach for power and, with unfortunate
> regularity, obtain it.
>
> I cannot and do not ask that those of you who have been saddled with
> personal or local crises during this sad time turn away from those
> responsibilities to give attention to matters of Internet governance,
> however urgent those may appear at the moment.  For all of us, our first-
> order duty lies nearby, with family, friends, and collegues.  But for
> those of you who still have a few cycles to spare, I do ask that you
> consider carefully the newfound and critical importance of this tool,
> this Internet, in the lives of so many millions, all around the world,
> and the self-evident risks of its governance being handed over, by default
> or otherwise, to persons with an interest only in what is best for them
> personally, to the exclusion of all else.
>
> P.P.S.  I would be posting this info and the above link also to the
> very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a
> due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so.  Separately,
> due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest on-list
> transgressions on that very list, that list has recently been switched
> to a heavy-handed moderation, under which, it seems, even discussion of
> the pros and cons of candidates in the upcoming RIPE NCC Executive Board
> election are now categorized as "too controversial" and thus, themselves,
> are now entirely off-limits.
>
> I cannot help but be reminded of a catch-phrase that I saw somewhere,
> not too long ago:
>
>                  "Democracy dies in darkness."
>                                   -- anon



--
William Herrin
b...@herrin.us
https://bill.herrin.us/

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