On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 12:45 PM Hugo Slabbert <h...@slabnet.com> wrote:
>
> > This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you 
> > build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :)
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_demand
>

Yup, there is also (in networking at least) suppressed demand -- I'm
sure we've all seen capacity planning discussions along the lines of:
"My 1GE is running at 95% capacity - I'm replacing it with a 10GE and
it will be around 10% used... wait?! What?! It's now at 7Gbps?! How
the hell did that happen?!" scenarios. They usedto be funny, but these
days I just find it depressing...

W

> :-)
>
>
> On Thu., Jan. 23, 2020, 09:40 Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for 
>>> capacity and speed.
>>
>>
>> I think it's spot on.
>>
>> In years past it made more sense to distribute smaller , incremental 
>> patches. More work on the software side, but it was likely a better option 
>> than getting blasted on Twitter because "OMG I WANT TO PLAY AND MY DOWNLOAD 
>> IS TAKING 8 HOURS".
>>
>> This just follows the same rules as networks have always seemed to; If you 
>> build it, they will come, and you'll have to build more. :)
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 11:57 AM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jan 23, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Valdis Klētnieks <valdis.kletni...@vt.edu> 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:13:15 +0100, Bryan Holloway said:
>>> >
>>> >> Game releases are hardly a new thing, but these last two events seem to
>>> >> be almost an order of magnitude higher than what we're used to (at least
>>> >> on our predominantly eyeball network.)
>>> >>
>>> >> Any thoughts from the community? We're taking steps to accommodate, but
>>> >> from a capacity-planning perspective, this seems non-linear to me.
>>> >
>>> > Be prepared for an entire new world of hurt this holiday season. Sony has 
>>> > already
>>> > confirmed that PS5 releases will ship on 100Gbyte blu-ray disks.  Which 
>>> > means that
>>> > download sizes will be comparable…
>>>
>>> There’s also the “we will stream you all the data things” I keep hearing 
>>> about like the
>>> Consoles without discs or some other thing I can’t remember the name of.
>>>
>>> I think this is a tribute to how we’ve built and upgraded networks for 
>>> capacity and speed.
>>>
>>> - Jared
>>>


-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
   ---maf

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