* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 05. 2001 21:33]: > % I'm using GnuPG and some recipients' clients do not have the capability > % to decipher PGP/MIME (see: Windows; TheBat!). > > <ultimate_flame_war>Screw 'em!</ultimate_flame_war>
Flamewars aside, if you ever have to use Windows, TheBat! is actually an exceptional MUA. (unless one wanted to use Mutt with Cygwin(sp?).) > % * I've managed to be able to clear sign outbound messages using: > % macro compose \Cp "Fgpg --clearsign\ny" "PGP clearsign" > % (by the way, binding and using ^s causes mutt to freeze, forcing me > % to kill it. Haven't the slightest clue why.) > % The signing works OK as well. > > Ick. That is one way to do it, and is unfortunately necessary when using > a charset other than us-ascii and perhaps when attaching a file > (but that bit is untested), but doing it within mutt would be so much > nicer. I was reeeally hoping the HOW-TO's were going to say, "oh yeah, that's eeeasy." :-) The manual says clear signing is seriously depreciated, but there are a ton of people out there unfamiliar with PGP/MIME. That makes me wonder why the author(s) of Mutt didn't go ahead and add in support for clear signing that's on par with its PGP/MIME ease of use. > I have had wonderful success with the stock $pgp_create_traditional and > the patch-supplied $pgp_outlook_compat settings; when both are "yes", > even LookOut! users can read and reply to my signed mail. I'd have to figure out how to patch a source deb and rebuild it. I've never done that before, but.. > % Now, I keep seeing references to a pgp-menu function in various HOW-TO > % texts. According to my mutt, there is no such thing. I can't seem to > % find decent newbie intructions on how to encrypt messages without using > % PGP/MIME (or, prompting me for a choice, for example). > > You initiate a message, supply your recipient and subject information, > edit it, and finish your composition. You are then dropped into the > compose menu, where you can send, edit, attach, or make pgp changes OK, when you say "make pgp changes," what are you referring to? In the PGP field, every time I send, I see "PGP: Clear" but it _never_ prompts me for anything, and the mail is never sent signed. I expected it not to be signed, however, because I have it set not to sign by default in my dot files. Is there something wrong with my set-up if it's displaying "PGP: Clear" every time I'm dropped to the compose menu (and of course not signing it)? > (or execute your macro from above). When you hit 'p' from there, > you enter the pgp menu; you can, IIRC, sign, sign as, encrypt, both, > or forget it and send cleartext. Hitting p from the compose menu is what I wasn't getting. LOL If I think about it for a while, I realize how silly that is for me to overlook that. > % I'm using vim for my editor, and I can't seem to figure out how to > % encrypt (Non-PGP/MIME) only the body of the message and be able to > % pick a recipient's key to encrypt to. > > I'd do it from mutt rather than vim; mutt knows how to pass the recipient > info off. Yep, but hittin p from the compose menu is going to drop back to PGP/MIME, AFAIK, right? > % I'm basically looking for tips/suggestions to make my life easier, > % if someone has any to offer. > > You might try the archives, but signing and encryption come up a lot. I > haven't checked, but a query for "signing outlook" might be sufficient. And off I go.. (again) ;-) Thanks again, David. -- -Brian Clark