People have been predicting the end of big engines for nearly 4 decades .In 
1973 at the time of the first oil crisis (oil went from $3/bbl  to $30/bbl in a 
matter of days), Americans were supposed to have fallen out of love with V8s. 
Most didn't. When I bought a V12 Jag 24 years ago I did so before they became 
impossible to own. I thought that by now we'd all be driving electric cars or 
ones driven by tiny, high-revving motors. In the meantime, fuel prices have 
continued to rise and there is a greater range of large, powerful engines on 
the market than ever before. They are also much more efficient than they used 
to be. We have seen commercial V-10 and W8/12/16 engines come on the market. 
The Chrysler V10 in various versions has gone into a load of pick-up trucks as 
well as the Dodge Viper and Bristol Fighter (has anyone ever seen one of the 
latter, by the way?).

You might be right, but there are an awful lot of big engined cars still being 
produced out there. It may be a minority market, but it exists, despite all the 
dire warnings from pundits, who are unable to quantify emotional appeal. It is 
emotional appeal which draws us to Morgans, not a desire for a sensible family 
car.

You may remember we were about to enter an ice age in 1970, based on global 
temperature trends. There was a memorable TV documentary about it.

My crystal ball remains extremely cloudy.

Owen.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MICHAEL CALLAGHAN 
  To: mogtalk2 
  Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] RE: Chips - non mog- now +8


  hi chaps, well I had an old +8 years back when I was in my 30,s and i hated 
it, rover v8,s are great engines for sure but the are just wasted in a morgan, 
these days with sky high fuel costs and the green thing I think that v8,s will 
just become old hat, What I was looking for in a car this time round now at 55 
was a car that would not cost a arm and leg to tax, insurance etc, so thats the 
german sports cars out, I did not wish to spend weeks on end cutting out rust 
sports so that takes out the old e types etc. I don,t like MG,s so it was back 
to morgan, I ended up with a 2 year old 4/4 with the ford sigma engine in, OK 
its underpowered even for a morgan, but it comes with low tax insurance and 
good mpg just over 45 mpg, so i can drive it without it eating my wallet, also 
V8,s are on all the dealers forecourts and not selling, and if its bad today it 
will be very bad tomorrow, the days of the big engine cars are coming to an end 
sad to say. michael 


  From: Tim Harris <[email protected]>
  To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
  Sent: Monday, 13 August 2012, 12:17
  Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] RE: Chips - non mog- now +8

  Two things for which +8s are justly renowned: they sound absolutely gorgeous, 
and they have simply prodigious quantities of torque. 


  Two things about which you may (or may not) be mildly concerned: The handling 
is somewhat ponderous compared to the smaller cars, which is an advantage if 
highway cruising/touring is your bag, less so if you like flinging it round the 
twisties. The only other downside is the fuel consumption, which compared to 
the 45mpg+ of the newer +4s is a bit disastrous, with sub 20mpg not being 
uncommon when driven enthusiastically.


  They are also enormously valuable these days, second hand prices are sky high 
- which may or may not be a good thing, depending on how fat your wallet is.


  I've actually only driven one once, the feeling of being shoved along on an 
unstoppable wave of torque was really quite something. As Colin says, if you 
drive one once, you will know immediately what they are about.


  Tim


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